Onkyo vs. Kenwood: Which would you choose and why?

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  1. Jeff Ashforth

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    I have an opportunity to upgrade my current (POS DD only) receiver, with one of the two receivers below. I can get them for cost. Which one do you guys think I should get.
    1. Onkyo TX-DS494
    2. Kenwood VR-507
    The main reason I chose these 2 models was that I could upgrade to dts and Pro Logic II for about $150. The Onkyo seems to have better build quality, but lacks some of the Kenwood's power. The main differences between the two seems to be power. But I think the Onkyo uses high current so that may be a moot point. I'm leaning toward the Onkyo because of the build quality and user interface, but I also want to make sure it has enough power. I haven't been able to audition these in my home, just in the store. They sounded fairly similar. I look forward to getting your opinions.
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    Used with what speakers?
    Personally, I would go with the Onkyo for exactly the reasons you listed. High current, full bandwidth rated power, superior build quality, better processing, etc... With the listings of rated power, I would say they are actually likely to be equal in power output, with the Onkyo delivering better sound reproduction.
    Take one look at the distortion (THD) numbers. That should be enough to make the decision alone...
    The fact that you can get them at cost is great, but also consider the Marantz SR-4200. I would put it equal to or slightly ahead of the 494.
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    My vote would be for the Onkyo. OTOH, if you could get the Denon AVR-1802 for the same price, no contest. Get the Denon.
     
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    Maybe I don't understand. The Kenwood VR-507 already has Pro-logic II. At any rate, that's the one I'd buy if it was my money.
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    I'm a big fan of Onkyo, but the wierd speaker settings and the supposed "easy menu system" of the 494 are big strikes against it. The Kenwood will give you a bit more flexibility at that price range.
    That being said, I auditioned Onkyo and Kenwood receivers before I bought my Onkyo 595 (which does NOT suffer from the problems of the 494), and liked the sound of the Onkyo more than the Kenwood. Also, a friend ended up with the Kenwood and after hearing it in his room, I'm glad I stuck with Onkyo. My suggestion would be this: If you can move up to the Onkyo 595, do it... but if not, get the Kenwood. The 494 is just not worth messing with.
     
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    Once again, I say LOOK AT THE THD NUMBERS:
    494: 55 watts x 5 into 8 ohms (20-20,000 kHz) at 0.08% THD
    VR507: 100 watts x 5 into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.7% THD [​IMG]
    Regardless of ANY features, this is an excellent indicator of a higher quality amplifier. Between those two, I still say the Onkyo is a much better choice.
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    Onkyo all the way !!!
     
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    Jeremy said:
    quote: I'm a big fan of Onkyo, but the wierd speaker settings and the supposed "easy menu system" of the 494 are big strikes against it. The Kenwood will give you a bit more flexibility at that price range.[/quote]
    Can you give me a few more details about this. I had always heard that the user interface for Onkyo was more "friendly" than Kenwood.
    As for the THD numbers, I'm not sure about how they were measured but it sure is a BIG difference. So far, I'm leaning much more toward the Onkyo but now I'm concerned about these weird speaker settings and set up menu.....
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    Sean said
     
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    I own the 494, and must say that I like it a LOT. It was a pain in the rear at first for a newbie like myself, but once I figured things out, I am totally happy. With this being my first receiver ever, it is definately a good sounding, user friendly (once you learn the menu & how things work) receiver in my opinion.
    The only drawback in my opinion here is that I have never heard the Kenwood. My opinion sticks with the Onkyo, it's driving my JBL N26's, N24's, & N-Center very nicely.
    Just my $.02..........Wil
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    Something else I thought of:
    I know Kenwood's last run of receivers had a crossover of 100hz for bass management. I don't know about their newer DPL2 line for sure, but I'd imagine it's probably still 100hz. Depending on what speaker/sub combo you're using, this may be too high a crossover for your setup. The Onkyo is crossed at 80hz at 12db/octave. Not sure if that's important to you, but it's something to consider. Either way, I think you'll be happy with either receiver.
     
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