Circa 1915: "You can have any color you want, as long as it's black". Ah, the good ole days when you had no choices, and did not know any better. Ignorance is bliss. Anyway, here I am looking at the Denon AVR-3803, and the Onkyo TX-SR800, and the countless other recommendations in here on receivers. I am a bit concerned about the power ratings for the Onkyo TX-SR800. I did read a review in Sound and Vision on the TX-NR900 that said it clipped at 55 watts! The review also says that Onkyo has a thermal limiter, and right before the limiter kicked in, it delivered 150 watts per channel at 8 ohms. Now I know watts and current are not the same thing, current is more important. And that when real world power is looked at, the NR900 performed well compared to the others in the test. I know the TX-SR800 is not the same as the NR900, but maybe some of the talk about poor power with Onkyo receivers is due to this limiter, assuming that other Onkyo models have a similar limiter. I have liked Onkyo in the past, and I'm kinda leaning in that direction. By the way, I got a local Circuit City to give me a price of 789.00, that's out the door , tax included, on a NEW, NOT OPEN BOX, TX-SR800, to match a web price. That's pretty good for a brick and mortar store.