I purchased the SVS Ultra PB13 in oak that was a B-stock item, yep a few hunnies more than what I wanted to pop for but I did not want to go through buyers remorse as it seems it is rated very well. I looked at the PB12 Plus/2 very seriously but I won't look back. I feel like I'm getting the latest technology and some of the best bang for the buck out there, yeah even after considering two of the new BMF'rs-15 from AV123...;-) I can't imagine those beasts invading my LR/HT.....cool but c'mon. I strongly considered the new offering at AV123 and thought the size was a factor in my mind, as I mentioned above, much less the girl friend size acceptance. (no comments please, I'm talking about the sub) I also considered the Epik Castle which is not available and several others so I will soon live in LFE bliss with the rest of you bobble heads of bass. So far I am like a kid waiting for Christmas, scheduled to arrive next week sometime. Since I have had little experience with high quality subs I will give my initial reactions as I install it. I will calibrate it into my system and stretch its legs. I know there are dozens, if not more threads on guys getting these things but darn it, this one is mine and I'm excited about it!!!