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oh why not....THE ABYSS

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by bob kaplan, May 30, 2016.

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  1. Robert Crawford

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    Making sequels doesn't mean they can't be innovative and presses the boundaries of film technology.
     
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    Avatar was a poor film well made. Perhaps he wants to create a world to populate with more sequels/prequels etc, a bit like Lucas has done with Star Wars. The problem is you can dilute the material too much and end up diminishing previous good work (Star Wars). Of course if Avatar 2 isn't well received, its game over for that.
     
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    I'd argue that The Abyss falls into that category as well. Cameron has always been in love with the sea and with diving, and The Abyss ties into all of that in spades. Heck the first Avatar sequel is, by all accounts, going to be set largely underwater on Pandora. So the question is, why would he abandon something that at one time WAS experimenting with pushing the technology and working on something that he loves and is passionate about? It makes no sense to me, when with relatively little effort on his part Cameron could give his fans what they want. It's bizarre.
     
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    PIRANHA II: THE SPAWNING, anyone? :wacko: But I agree that, since then, he has not directed a stinker.
     
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    Never said you said. My comment was strictly directed at the suggestion True Lies is not PC friendly. That's an opinion. One shared by many, though not by all - hoss!
     
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    Touché!
     
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    While true that The Abyss certainly helped feed his passion for underwater exploration, it was also a pretty bad experience for everyone involved, unlike Avatar, so I can see why it might not be on the top of his list of things to revisit.
     
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    To be fair, that was his full feature film directing debut so I'm sure he wasn't in the position to deny the old proverb "beggars can't be choosers".
     
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    Yeah, probably...plus, he was actually a co-director. I bring up the title from time to time just to be a jerk. :)
     
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    Cameron also apparently had very limited control over the production. He took over as director when the producer fired the original director, and the producer still basically ran the show.

    "P2" is a "Cameron movie" in the technical sense but it's such a compromised production that it doesn't really count...
     
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    Perhaps this is the tie-in.
     
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    I mean, Kubrick's first film, Fear and Desire, is... not great. Everyone has to start somewhere!
     
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    People ought to look at the director greats from prior years and their first films. Yikes! Directors like Spielberg and Tarantino are not the norm when it comes to making quality if not great films at the start of their careers.
     
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    Might be an interesting thread to look at various first films from legends!
     
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