Cees Alons
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The mere fact that Patrick Stewart is a better actor by far than William Shatner, doesn't make the Picard character nicer that Kirk. I wish Shatner wouldn't have started to wear (since ?) that ridiculous looking corset to help keeping his belly under control. Or should I have said: would not have had the necessity to wear the thing?
The Wrath of Khan is indeed one of the best, although I keep a weak spot for The Voyage Home ever since I first saw it on TV in a hotel room during a business visit to the US (in SF actually). It is a bit dated now though.
The TNS series is technically better than TOS, and I think generally more rewarding on an intellectual level. Unfortunately the first season seemed to concentrate on Data's un-human-ness. And how he has to pity he has no "real feelings", no "sense of humor", "no love", etc. I suppose he was to replace Spock's plot, so to say, but it really doesn't make that much sense. Especially not for those who know their Asimov by heart. And I cannot help feeling that Data, and to a lesser degree Spock and all those alien entities, were considered odd and less worthy in a sense (oh how glad we humans can be that we know how to love, hate, laugh, grieve, be illogical now and then: look it even makes us more intelligent and in any case normal).
I personally have a problem with DS9: I just seem unable to find it that interesting, a few very good episodes notwithstanding.
ST: Voyager may be the best. The trailer is fantastic, most of the episodes are really good, and the general quality level of the series is almost perfect now (except for some apparently eldering - and fattening - actors), but I have a very serious problem with this series: the acting skills (ha, ha!) of Kate Mulgrew.
I understand why they chose a pc female captain this time - but please can they loose the close-ups of that "interested" look?
The Borg. There's a problem there. In fact the concept is so strong, it could never really be defeated and would spread like a plague. I agree with Ben about the Borg Queen: a nonsense concept that helps "defeat" the enemy more or less in First Contact, but is totally out-of-character to the Borg.
One of the most serious problems of movies based on TV series is the inability to really make an irrevocable change (that's a limitation of the episodes of the series too). As long as the movie is supposed to be in a time frame somewhere "between" the episodes of the series, no-one of the fixed crew can die, no relations be broken or forever build, etc. When the series is over when they release the film, they can make every plot hold (a bit more dangerous when the series is still on), but it simply has to be a bit lame. And a "what happened after the series was over" doesn't look that good most of the time.
Real important changes, deep involving emotional stuff, in fact real events can only happen to characters new to the series, to avoid any unwanted interaction between the film and the series. Characters who left the series are generally not available for the movie as well.
Those are nasty restrictions.
Cees
The Wrath of Khan is indeed one of the best, although I keep a weak spot for The Voyage Home ever since I first saw it on TV in a hotel room during a business visit to the US (in SF actually). It is a bit dated now though.
The TNS series is technically better than TOS, and I think generally more rewarding on an intellectual level. Unfortunately the first season seemed to concentrate on Data's un-human-ness. And how he has to pity he has no "real feelings", no "sense of humor", "no love", etc. I suppose he was to replace Spock's plot, so to say, but it really doesn't make that much sense. Especially not for those who know their Asimov by heart. And I cannot help feeling that Data, and to a lesser degree Spock and all those alien entities, were considered odd and less worthy in a sense (oh how glad we humans can be that we know how to love, hate, laugh, grieve, be illogical now and then: look it even makes us more intelligent and in any case normal).
I personally have a problem with DS9: I just seem unable to find it that interesting, a few very good episodes notwithstanding.
ST: Voyager may be the best. The trailer is fantastic, most of the episodes are really good, and the general quality level of the series is almost perfect now (except for some apparently eldering - and fattening - actors), but I have a very serious problem with this series: the acting skills (ha, ha!) of Kate Mulgrew.
I understand why they chose a pc female captain this time - but please can they loose the close-ups of that "interested" look?
The Borg. There's a problem there. In fact the concept is so strong, it could never really be defeated and would spread like a plague. I agree with Ben about the Borg Queen: a nonsense concept that helps "defeat" the enemy more or less in First Contact, but is totally out-of-character to the Borg.
One of the most serious problems of movies based on TV series is the inability to really make an irrevocable change (that's a limitation of the episodes of the series too). As long as the movie is supposed to be in a time frame somewhere "between" the episodes of the series, no-one of the fixed crew can die, no relations be broken or forever build, etc. When the series is over when they release the film, they can make every plot hold (a bit more dangerous when the series is still on), but it simply has to be a bit lame. And a "what happened after the series was over" doesn't look that good most of the time.
Real important changes, deep involving emotional stuff, in fact real events can only happen to characters new to the series, to avoid any unwanted interaction between the film and the series. Characters who left the series are generally not available for the movie as well.
Those are nasty restrictions.
Cees