*** Official "SPY KIDS 2: ISLAND OF LOST DREAMS" Discussion Thread

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  1. Peter Kline

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    Rodriguez filmed Once Upon A Time In Mexico digitally as well. He has also said that the technology has come a long way since AotC was filmed.
     
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    .. and it has someways to go until it has the resolution and color pallette of film. Onward and upward..
     
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    What is the resolution of the digital filming technology?
    Also,do they have anamorphic lenses for it? They didn't when Lucas shot EP2.
     
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    This thread is now designated the Official Discussion Thread for "Spy Kids 2: Island of Lost Dreams". Please, post all comments, links to outside reviews, film and box office discussion items to this thread.
    All HTF member film reviews of "Spy Kids 2: Island of Lost Dreams" should be posted to the Official Review Thread.
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    So, any comments on how the refined HD camera and lenses hold up with Spy Kids 2 from those who have seen the movie? I noticed Ebert didn't even bring it up.

    Dan
     
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    I saw the movie, and wasn't even aware it was shot digitally. Looked the same as any other analog film, to me, anyhow...
     
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    First, the movie was 1.85 (actually, I'd bet it should be 1.78) not 2.40 'scope, so I don't know where that article got its facts from.

    Second, I'm very glad that Rodriguez gave himself a "Director of DIGITAL Photography" credit, because I wouldn't want anyone who sees the movie to think that the ugly, waxy, limited, and dreary color palette could possibly have come from high-quality 35mm cameras and film. This film was UGLY. I'm sure the intent - at least I hope so - is to make it look low-budget. I will wager that it will look better on video if they transfer it from his tapes rather than a film print.

    The movie itself was sort-of fun, though it only came to life when the monsters and Steve Buscemi showed up. The first hour or so is pretty tedious. But the kids liked it, and that's the audience they wanted.
     
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    Caught this one today while waiting for an appointment. Had a good time with it, though I think the original is a half-star better.
    Haley Joel Osment's little sister was rather amusing, and it was nice to see Taylor Momsen (little girl from Carrey's Grinch flick) getting some more work. Though they're basically relegated to 'background gags', I had a good time with the Banderas-Gugino-Montalban-Taylor quartet, the numerous cameos and 'small bits' by actors I like (Trejo, Shalhoub, Cumming, Marin, Buscemi, McDonald, Paxton, etc.) kept me entertained, and the creatures/gadgets/amusement park rides were totally cool! Back to that cast: it's huge!
    Call me a child, but this movie was a hell of a lot more fun than XXX was!
     
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    I thought it was okay, but I did fall asleep during the middle stretch of the film (until some kids in the theater woke me up...dagnabit!).
     
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    What was the resolution of the cameras Rodriguez used to shoot with? Anyone know? AOTC's digital camera was 2.2 million pixels.

    I haven't seen this film, but I'd like to. I enjoyed the first one fairly well. So I'll check it out before it leaves the theater.
     
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    Terrell: It was was the same exact model as the Episode II cameras. Rodriguez bought two after Lucas showed him footage from Episode II in 2000. The difference in detail and depth is probably due to the fact that Rodriguez used newer, better lenses than Lucas did. Also, Lucas was notorious for recomposing shots in the editting room, at times zooming long shots into close-ups. Rodriguez didn't do that at all.

    I differently wouldn't call the film ugly, as it was one of the more vibrant films color-wise I've seen in years. Probably since Batman and Robin was shot in Technicolor (as horrible as the film was, the cinematography while unsuited to the film itself was absolutely spectacular in and of itself.)

    Hopefully, Lucas will use those 10k Viper camera for Episode III. I'd love to see what a digital film that totally blows 35mm away in resolution looks like.
     
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    Here's some links on the Viper camera. Not sure if it blows away film Adam, but then I'm not up on the tech. It's 27.6 million pixels. It has 3 CCDs each comprising 9.2 megapixels.
    http://www.viperfilmstreamcamera.com/
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    Terrell: Film is estimated to be between 4 and 5k in resolution. The Viper is 10k, which is roughly double that resolution. So that should blow 35mm away. Printing to anything less that 70mm should be a severe quality loss with the Viper camera.
     
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    Anyone know the specific new lenses used on Spy Kids 2 and Once upon a time in Mexico? I'm trying to arrange a day for me to play with the F900 in its latest form without having to pay the typical £850 a day rate. [​IMG]
    Dan
     

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