*** Official 'Spaceworld 2001 Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Dan B, Aug 23, 2001.

  1. Dan B

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    Since I can't seem to find any good news yet. [​IMG]
    Let's see...Gamecube delayed 'til Nov. 18th in the US, with rumors that not many will be available, Star Fox delayed 'til next year, the next Zelda game will feature a cel-shaded cartoon look, Mario Sunshine will not arrive until at least next summer in Japan. (tries to catch breath but faints)
    -Dan
    P.S. Some good news...they will be launching in orange and BLACK in Japan in addition to indigo...so there is hope for the US launch.
    [Edited last by Dan B on August 23, 2001 at 12:38 AM]
     
  2. Dan B

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    OK, here's the good news, some of which contradicts the rumors...whew!
     
  3. Dan Brecher

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    I've made this thread the thread for all OFFICIAL DISCUSSION ON SPACEWORLD 2001.
    Well the delay is just one of those "arghhhhhhhh" situations isn't it? Damn, and I so wanted them to get their head start on the X-Box. Still, if it's a delay to increase shipments then fine, I'd rather not see a PS2 style fu*k up like Sony had here in the UK, go down in the US with the Cube. Maybe with the two week delay I can save that little bit more and have an additional game or two ship with my US model. [​IMG]
    Ok, ok, so, Star Fox delayed? Not a bad thing, it's not like there will be a shortage of great games come the Cubes US launch, it still has the finest launch line up I've ever seen, so to have Fox, Mario, Zelda....etc all coming in 2002, that's fine.
    As for how Zelda looks, I think even from those blurred shots at IGN from the show floor it looking GORGEOUS! Looks to have a Jet Set Radio vibe to it. Mario Sunshine is looking like a generation leap over Mario 64 visually. More news on that game play wise is going to be interesting...
    Dan (UK)
    [Edited last by Dan Brecher on August 23, 2001 at 06:06 AM]
     
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    Dan, you might wanna head on over to Computerandvideogames.com, they have something tasty for download [​IMG]
     
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    I watched the vids of Zelda and Mario. Very nice. The Zelda animation was fantastic, and the enviroments in Mario are looking to be huge. Hopefully we won't have to wait an entire year for more gameplay info.
     
  6. Camp

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    SpaceWorld is boring!!
    This is like Microsoft's E3 showing. News, yes...but nothing really exciting at all.
     
  7. Dan B

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    Dan B(UK) [​IMG], thanks for changing the title...I was panicking when I started the thread. Well, I'm going to check out some of that media this morning which I hope will put me in a better mood.
    -Dan B(US)
     
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  9. Dan B

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    I've checked out some video from Zelda for the Gamecube, and it is really incredible. At the same time, I'm disappointed that it doesn't have a more realistic look. Very shocked. Mario is decent from what I've seen...not beyond the Sonic Dreamcast games though.
    starting to panic again
    I just dunno.
     
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    A new 1080? When did I miss this one? SSX Tricky can now be officially declared dead in the water. Nothing can currently beat the mastery that is N64 1080.
    Oh, and there is one small probably with over-initialising. I thought for a moment there that SC2 meant a port of the classic Star Control sequel...
     
  11. Morgan Jolley

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    I haven't been able to check out much of whats going on at SpaceWorld, but will probably get to later on.
    That sucks about the delay of the GCN.
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    How did you see a video or any screenshots from Mario or Zelda when Nintendo specifically asked for no media to be taken of either game? Then again, I had seen video of Final Fantasy IX, X, and some concept art from XI about 10 months before IX came out due to someone having a camera at SquareSoft's Millennium Conference, so I would assume a similar situation here.
    [Edited last by Morgan Jolley on August 23, 2001 at 05:29 PM]
     
  12. Dan Brecher

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    Yeah the new look of Zelda caught me off guard.
    I really liked the more realistic look of the previous version.
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  14. Morgan Jolley

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    Haven't seen any videos yet, but the new Zelda and Mario games seem to be shaping up well. The Zelda game seems to be very interesting, and the Mario game seems to be "Super Mario 64 2" rather than a new game altogether. I can't wait for both.
     
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    I just watched the video of Zelda. Wow, Nintendo's got balls! I liked the previously released art too but I'm willing to accept this because it's such a different course.
    If you haven't seen Zelda in motion download a video now.
    Remember how excited you were the first time you saw Dragon's Lair?
    Remember how that excitement dwindled when you realized you didn't really have any control of Dirk?
    Zelda contains that level of animation in a totally user controlled game.
    Fantastic stuff. Better yet, the "hand drawn look" doesn't look like it's pasted on to polygons. It looks like the real thing.
    Quite amazing.
    So yes, I take back the "boring" comment. [​IMG]
    quote: Anyone check out the very brief Fifa video at IGN? Jeez, all it's missing is Des Lynam, it looks incredible.[/quote]
    Really? I thought Virtua Striker looked better.
    -Camp
    [Edited last by Camp on August 23, 2001 at 07:45 PM]
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    Just got back from IGN
    Thank the maker I have a cable modem [​IMG]
    Zelda is something else - it has to seen to be believed...and while I'm not sure that I like the direction that they are taking the series, you have got to be impressed with what they have done.
    Mario shows promise as well, but I personally think they (Retro studios) are having major problems with Metroid Prime. I just hope Miaymoto can show them the proper way to make it the A-Grade game it should be.
    Star Wars: Rogue Leader impresses me more every time I see it. Playing the movie..Finally!!
    The future is bright for Nintendo - no way do they get out of hardware making, much less fold, in 18 months.
    Microsoft & Sony may be huge, but look at all the other quality electronic manufacturers out there.
    PS: I'll take my Mac and day over Windows [​IMG]
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  17. Dean Cooper

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    Well this thread is a breath of fresh air. Have you guys looked at the IGN forum? Holy smokes there are a LOT of POed Nintendo fans. Personally, I find the Zelda game quite cool, except for the 5yr old girl look (anyone else get that impression?), and the loonie toons rip off. Going with that style of game will allow "Mr Nintendo" to put much more expression into link. Should be a cool game even if it does look like a cartoon. I think the reason I like the new one so much is because it reminds me of the original, kind of returning to its roots type of thing.
    Metroid is disappointing if you ask me, all that hype for turok..eh..I mean a Metriod fps. The FMV that was ooooing the lemmings at E3 sure didn't portray that the game would be more of a FPS. But its got a ways to go still, so we'll see I guess.
    Mario looks like I thought it would. Mario 64 mixed with Sonic adventure. If your still in to that fat little plumber I think it will deliver the goods. The stuff attached to him has me a little curious. My only gripe is the name, I mean SUNSHINE?!? With that title Mario will grow up to be a bouncing coin collecting fruit boy. Its got to go...quick!
    I can't really say anything about the delay, I wasn't planing on getting a Game Cube until well into next year (if ever) anyway. Might just rent one for a week to play that Zelda game when it comes out.
    Dean
     
  18. Morgan Jolley

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    Just saw the three videos and all I can say is a general WOW!!!
    The Zelda game looked excellent. People think that Jet Grind Radio perfected cel shading, but this game does it WAY better (IMO, though I haven't seen JGRF on X-Box yet). The look on Link seems to portray him as younger, so I could see the animated style as fitting with that idea. The game could change between now and its Japanese release next Christmas (of 2003) and even if it doesn't I am still excited. I think that Shigeru Miyamoto has gained so much power that he could turn Zelda into a porno and still make it a masterpiece, thats how good he is at this stuff. I trust he won't screw this one up.
    Mario looks promising, but nothing groundbreaking was shown. Nonetheless, it looked interesting and seems to have a lot of things to do. Mario Sunshine is just a tentative title, and they could change that for the american release (if not the japanese one, too). I hope there is more than one level though.
    Metroid Prime was...well....you know, not that big of a deal. It looked good, but not like Metroid. The graphics are still great and it looks to be a good game, whether it has the Metroid title or not.
    Overall, they all look pretty good and will just give me more reasons to buy a GCN.
     
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  20. Jeff Cooper

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    Is that really how the Zelda game is going to look? I was under the impression that it was still very early on in the development, and the animated cartoony figures were simply placeholders for the eventual character designs. Anyway, I thought the Zelda video was kind of lame with the cartoony link, the N64 versions looked better in my opinion. And I have to agree that Mario Sunshine has to be the gayest game title I have ever heard. No wonder everyone thinks the Gamecube is a kiddy system. The game itself looks good, but that title has got to go!
    Anyway I am really looking forward to Rogue Squadron II, and Waverace!!
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