Robert Ringwald
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When was it stated the the opening scenes took place on Miranda?
When was it stated the the opening scenes took place on Miranda?
Never. One of the students mentioned Reavers, so that alone confirms they weren't there. If the school was on Miranda, River wouldn't be alive.
I loved in the show how the space scenes had no sound. Also they seemed to have gotten rid of the zoom effect. I liked those alot.
That worked in the show. The tv show pioneered the use of the "handheld camera in space" style that was so perfectly copied by the new Battlestar Galactica.
Maybe they purposefully avoided it for the feature film because Galactica has made it "its own." (Indeed, Ron Moore talks all about his decision to use this technique in his commentary tracks on the Galactica discs, without giving the slightest credit to Whedon...which really ticked me off for awhile - but now its ok because after all, Firefly isn't on the air and Galactica is).
Joss went "Hollywood" with the action scenes. I loved in the show how the space scenes had no sound.
There were some space scenes with no sound, but they were (almost) always accompanied by score. All of the other space scenes with sounds were either in atmo, where sound does exist, or close to atmo. The space battle was a goof, though.
Having seen the series, I had all the doom and gloom I needed to fear the Reavers, but I was concerned that they were pretty two-dimensional villains when only viewed within the film. If I hadn't been familiar with the material this would probably have been one of my major criticisms of the film, but I've never been a big fan of the zombie movie genre to begin with.
A good point, but the reactions everyone was having to them should make it clear that they are feared for good reason.
Jason
There were some space scenes with no sound, but they were (almost) always accompanied by score. All of the other space scenes with sounds were either in atmo, where sound does exist, or close to atmo. The space battle was a goof, though.
The last space battle wasn't a goof. The sound begins when they enter the gas nebula thingy. It was Whedon's way of "justifying" the use of sound in a space battle, without completely abandoning the series' realism.
Also, when Mal fire's the gun at the Reaver's ship, all you have is bass - which you would indeed still feel in Mal's position.
The last space battle wasn't a goof. The sound begins when they enter the gas nebula thingy. It was Whedon's way of "justifying" the use of sound in a space battle, without completely abandoning the series' realism.
Wasn't the gas nebula thing the thick clouds that Serenity and the Reavers came out of? Or was it the space between atmo and the clouds?
I think I heard an argument for Joss where it said that the space battle was close enough to atmo for it to be heard, but they were still kinda out there. Whatever.
Wasn't the gas nebula thing the thick clouds that Serenity and the Reavers came out of? Or was it the space between atmo and the clouds?
The former.
The sound doesn't start again until the battle goes back into the thick clouds.
In any case, Whedon was forced to be a little more mainstream, but I feel he did it within a realm of reasonable compromise.
I do get that, since it's been mentioned above. I just don't see the point in trying to inject that kind of realism into an otherwise unrealistic show.
The absence of sounds really brings out the hostility, alienness and sheer vastness of space. We've seen so many shows based in space, that setting is so familiar, that one is inclined to forget it is an extremely hostile environment.
A ship which produces no sound looks/feels more precarious. The absence of familiar sounds is a constant reminder of the unforgiving conditions outside of the hull, emphasising the fact that this environment is still a frontier.
So I would say that the primary purpose for the silence is to create that unsettling feeling which I would imagine space must provoke.
In the end, I believe Joss Whedon decision was dictated more by artistic concerns than the desire for accuracy.
I hope this makes sense, I wish I could explain better what I have in mind.
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Chloe and Walsh were my favorites!
What movie are we talking about???