Ernest Rister
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"Two questions;
People have asserted that Celeste didn't know Jimmy would kill Dave, but went to him instead of the police as that was the culture. What precisely was Celeste supposed to be accomplishing by going to Jimmy? Was she just trying to settle Jimmy's mind?"
a) She's related to Jimmy's family, she knows Jimmy has had numerous legal issues -- she goes to these family members for protection and also as a confession. She thinks Dave murdered their daughter. Now imagine your own family. Imagine that you had every reason to believe someone close to you murdered a child of a close relative. If you have severed your loyalty to that person who is close to you ("I think I've left Dave forever"), you would run to your family for help, and because you need their help, you would tell them everything you know to have them on your side ("Do you think Dave murdered my Katie?" "Yes"). She has to get that monkey off her back, she needs help, she runs to her family, and she confesses her sins. That scene has nothing to do with Jimmy, it is all about Celeste, and her confession. Imagine the horror -- your husband has killed the child of a close relative -- how would you hold up under that pressure? Celeste makes a tragic mistake.
"I got that Annabeth was aware of what Jimmy was going to do with Dave when Celeste called looking for him"
I don't think Annabeth knew what had happened to Dave until AFTER the events of that night.
"Was it also clear that Celeste's remarks made Annabeth aware that Dave was innocent?"
What remarks are these? To my knowledge, Annabeth and Celeste never speak to each other after Dave's murder.
"Did the Celeste/Annabeth convo contain the info Sean provided Jimmy later [the kids did it, looking for Dave in connection with the body of the molester]?"
What convo are you talking about? I'm at a loss here.
People have asserted that Celeste didn't know Jimmy would kill Dave, but went to him instead of the police as that was the culture. What precisely was Celeste supposed to be accomplishing by going to Jimmy? Was she just trying to settle Jimmy's mind?"
a) She's related to Jimmy's family, she knows Jimmy has had numerous legal issues -- she goes to these family members for protection and also as a confession. She thinks Dave murdered their daughter. Now imagine your own family. Imagine that you had every reason to believe someone close to you murdered a child of a close relative. If you have severed your loyalty to that person who is close to you ("I think I've left Dave forever"), you would run to your family for help, and because you need their help, you would tell them everything you know to have them on your side ("Do you think Dave murdered my Katie?" "Yes"). She has to get that monkey off her back, she needs help, she runs to her family, and she confesses her sins. That scene has nothing to do with Jimmy, it is all about Celeste, and her confession. Imagine the horror -- your husband has killed the child of a close relative -- how would you hold up under that pressure? Celeste makes a tragic mistake.
"I got that Annabeth was aware of what Jimmy was going to do with Dave when Celeste called looking for him"
I don't think Annabeth knew what had happened to Dave until AFTER the events of that night.
"Was it also clear that Celeste's remarks made Annabeth aware that Dave was innocent?"
What remarks are these? To my knowledge, Annabeth and Celeste never speak to each other after Dave's murder.
"Did the Celeste/Annabeth convo contain the info Sean provided Jimmy later [the kids did it, looking for Dave in connection with the body of the molester]?"
What convo are you talking about? I'm at a loss here.