BobH
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I have read the Ring several times as well as The Silmarilion, Hobbit and other Tolkien works.
I was essentially breathless throughout most of the film. It was hard to find something to criticize because I was busy being awed.
I agree with those that argue that this is Jackson's art work and doesn't have to perfectly represent Tolkien's. It couldn't anyway. As Ebert points out, (in his unfair review) the book was more focused on the hobbits and their soft little life style in a horrific world.
That being said, I am still confused by some changes Jackson made and wonder why he made them. It would seem that Tolkien's story is quite solid and the changes I refer to seem unecessary and a bit jolting. Someone not as familiar with the book wouldn't notice them, so this doesn't really take away from the excellent movie. But why?:
1. Saruman's role is significantly expanded and his offer to join with Gandalf against Sauron is skipped. Jackson's partial view of Saruman's motives seems weaker than Tolkien's. I must say that I expected Saruman and Gandalf to suspend themselves in mid-air (ala Matrix). Whew!
2. I accept the Arwen addition, especially since she has such a small role in the Ring but is expanded upon in the Silmarilion. It seems a little "Hollywood" but not bad.
3. The interplay between Gimli and Legolas was so good in the book that I really missed it here.
4. The scenes in Rivendell were rather overdone. It seems that ALL locations had to be spectacular? Elrond seemed a little angry rather than wise. More "Hollywood" it seems. The Council in the book is a slow point, so I suppose Jackson improved on it, in essence.
5. Several plot points were re-done too many times as if the audience wouldn't get it the first time. The kingship of Aragorn, for example. I will assume that his ascension will be big-time in the Return of the King, so why so much here? A good surprise lost.
6. As someone else pointed out, Elendil was betrayed by the Ring, rather than just ambushed. The Tolkien version would have made more sense. Since Jackson points this out twice, I assume he just wanted yet another "person turned evil by the Ring." Not very subtle.
Based on the postings here, it seems that most people have not read the book so they won't be bothered by these things. It is encouraging to see all the " . . . now I will go read the books . . ." comments. Enjoy!
I had a hard time waiting for this, and expected much less. Now I need another excuse to skip work and go see it again . . .
Punchline? My favorite book comes to the big screen and isn't skewered!! I'm a happy camper.
I was essentially breathless throughout most of the film. It was hard to find something to criticize because I was busy being awed.
I agree with those that argue that this is Jackson's art work and doesn't have to perfectly represent Tolkien's. It couldn't anyway. As Ebert points out, (in his unfair review) the book was more focused on the hobbits and their soft little life style in a horrific world.
That being said, I am still confused by some changes Jackson made and wonder why he made them. It would seem that Tolkien's story is quite solid and the changes I refer to seem unecessary and a bit jolting. Someone not as familiar with the book wouldn't notice them, so this doesn't really take away from the excellent movie. But why?:
1. Saruman's role is significantly expanded and his offer to join with Gandalf against Sauron is skipped. Jackson's partial view of Saruman's motives seems weaker than Tolkien's. I must say that I expected Saruman and Gandalf to suspend themselves in mid-air (ala Matrix). Whew!
2. I accept the Arwen addition, especially since she has such a small role in the Ring but is expanded upon in the Silmarilion. It seems a little "Hollywood" but not bad.
3. The interplay between Gimli and Legolas was so good in the book that I really missed it here.
4. The scenes in Rivendell were rather overdone. It seems that ALL locations had to be spectacular? Elrond seemed a little angry rather than wise. More "Hollywood" it seems. The Council in the book is a slow point, so I suppose Jackson improved on it, in essence.
5. Several plot points were re-done too many times as if the audience wouldn't get it the first time. The kingship of Aragorn, for example. I will assume that his ascension will be big-time in the Return of the King, so why so much here? A good surprise lost.
6. As someone else pointed out, Elendil was betrayed by the Ring, rather than just ambushed. The Tolkien version would have made more sense. Since Jackson points this out twice, I assume he just wanted yet another "person turned evil by the Ring." Not very subtle.
Based on the postings here, it seems that most people have not read the book so they won't be bothered by these things. It is encouraging to see all the " . . . now I will go read the books . . ." comments. Enjoy!
I had a hard time waiting for this, and expected much less. Now I need another excuse to skip work and go see it again . . .
Punchline? My favorite book comes to the big screen and isn't skewered!! I'm a happy camper.