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[Seth--L]

quote:Michael Moore to forego Best Documentary Oscar but keeps options open for Best Picture Oscar instead.

I guess that ends all debate about whether or not it's a documentary

 

[Dave Scarpa]

Yeah I kinda figured this was coming. Did you read Moore's reason for doing this? A Director pulling his film from oscar contention stands to gain nothing from this, in fact he loses potential new revenues. Of course He'll never get a National Network to air it, Maybe PBS but even that's doubtful.

 

[Jeff Gatie]

quote:Of course He'll never get a National Network to air it, Maybe PBS but even that's doubtful.

It has already aired on national TV in Cuba. This may be the real reason he cannot submit it for an Oscar. I can see him wanting to air it on TV in the states, but if it is already ineligible it is not much of a sacrifice to give up an Oscar that he cannot win anyway.

 

[MatthewLouwrens]

quote:It has already aired on national TV in Cuba. This may be the real reason he cannot submit it for an Oscar.

The screening in Cuba did not make the film ineligible, as it was an illegal unapproved screening of a pirated version of the film.

 

[Edwin Pereyra]

quote:A Director pulling his film from oscar contention stands to gain nothing from this, in fact he loses potential new revenues.

Well, according to industry insiders, the film is moot as far as gathering new audiences regardless of what happens after November. The potential loss in new revenues after that may be very insignificant.





~Edwin

 

[ChrisMatson]

I don't know about a network showing. I hope it happens, but I doubt it will.

 

[Seth--L]

quote:A Director pulling his film from oscar contention stands to gain nothing from this, in fact he loses potential new revenues.

Everyone who has wanted to see it on the big screen has. Look at the box office numbers. Everyone will now have a second chance with home video.

 

[Mike Broadman]

Yeah, I think Moore is trying to at least give the film a chance to be aired on TV. If it's broadcast so soon after being in the theaters, it's ineligible for an Oscar, so he might as well just no submit it for consideration.

 

[Edwin Pereyra]

quote:Yeah, I think Moore is trying to at least give the film a chance to be aired on TV.

But Showtime already has the first pay TV broadcast rights a few months after the October 5th DVD release.





~Edwin

 

[Francois Caron]

Maybe he's aiming for an early Showtime broadcast. I doubt Showtime would be against such a schedule change.

Of course, that all depends on FCC and national election rules. Could presenting a feature that blasts a presidential candidate be interpreted as indirect support for the leading candidate in the opposing party? If it does, Showtime may have to offer equal time to the other candidates.

 

[Edwin Pereyra]

quote:Maybe he's aiming for an early Showtime broadcast. I doubt Showtime would be against such a schedule change.

But Sony's Columbia TriStar, which is releasing the DVD/video, would definitely have a say in the matter as they have negotiated an exclusive home video release window to maximize both the sales and rental aspect of the film.





~Edwin

 

[Lew Crippen]

quote:I guess that ends all debate about whether or not it's a documentary

A conclusion not substantiated by the article, Seth. Either you did not actually read the article or understood the words and sentences very differently than me.

 

[Rob Gardiner]

The story on CNN said that a TV broadcast would make the film ineligible for the Best Doc Oscar but would NOT make it ineligible for Best Picture.


Personally, I don't know enough about Oscar rules to be able to confirm or deny this.

 

[Edwin Pereyra]

Yes, the film is still eligible for Best Picture Oscar. I thought this was clear all along. Here's another article.





~Edwin

 

[Dave Scarpa]

I'd support it for Best Picture. It's in My Top Ten

 

[Lew Crippen]

I would be very surprised if it got a Best Picture nomination. It seems to be to be lacking (seriously lacking) in most of the items present in that category.

 

[george kaplan]

quote:I would be very surprised if it got a Best Picture nomination. It seems to be to be lacking (seriously lacking) in most of the items present in that category.

I didn't follow that. Are you saying it pales compared to most best picture winners, or that there are items (criteria) that a best picture is judged by that it doesn't have?

 

[Dave Scarpa]

Items Lacking? Such As?

 

[Seth--L]

quote:A conclusion not substantiated by the article, Seth. Either you did not actually read the article or understood the words and sentences very differently than me.

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Did you not notice the smiley faces?

 

[Lew Crippen]

quote:Did you not notice the smiley faces?

Seen but not understood in that context.