Official 2023 Oscar Nominations And Discussions Thread (2 Viewers)

[mskaye]

But TV movies have existed for decades.

They have an Emmy category called "Outstanding Television Movie"!

Those were films for mostly for old school linear or public network television, and therefore limited in subject matter highly reined in by network "standards and practices." I mean ads have to be sold... From 1966 to the early 90s those winners were largely split between both (Brian's Song anyone ?) From the early 90s, dominated by HBO and then Netflix. Last year, Disney +'s CHIP AND DALE RESCUE RANGERS. I think we are talking about a very different animal when directors like Fukunaga, Scorsese, etc. are making films for Netflix for an adult audience with an R rating...

 

[Matt Hough]

Cable networks, on the other hand, originally had their own award: the CableACE Award, because the Emmys wouldn't consider any original cable network programming until circa 1990 (if memory serves).

It was earlier than that, I believe. Angela Lansbury and George Hearn both earned CableACE awards for their performances in the taped version of Sweeney Todd which aired on A&E. But they were also nominated for Emmys for that taping (stupidly in the same category of Outstanding Performance in Music, Variety, or Comedy; Hearn won). This was in 1982.

 

[Robert Crawford]

During a time when the Oscars meant a lot more than they do today.

 

[Ronald Epstein]

During a time when the Oscars meant a lot more than they do today.

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Damn! That's for sure! Look at that lineup.

As someone who used to skip school or work on a Monday, growing up, just to watch the Sunday night Oscars, I haven't watched a show in years. They really mean nothing to me anymore.

 

[Malcolm R]

And with a 9:00 start, apparently they used to be able to do the show in about 2 hours, rather than the current 3-4.

 

[billO']

And with a 9:00 start, apparently they used to be able to do the show in about 2 hours, rather than the current 3-4.

Ever since I purchased my first VCR in the early '90s, and now that I've had a DVR for about fifteen years, it's never taken me more than about an hour or at the very most an hour and a half to watch any Oscar telecast. And even that length of viewing still feels like a long slog.

 

[Matt Hough]

During a time when the Oscars meant a lot more than they do today.

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How very well I remember that page from TV Guide which was everyone's TV Bible back in the day.

 

[MartinP.]

^^^

Back in those days I never even knew when the program was on every year until I saw it listed in the TV Guide!
Interesting that they were on a THURSDAY that year.

And with a 9:00 start, apparently they used to be able to do the show in about 2 hours, rather than the current 3-4.

From the first telecast in 1953 through 1962, except for one year, they started at 7:30pm in Hollywood, 10:30pm on the East Coast!

1963-1979: 7pm in Hollywood. (Robert's listing must be Central time.) I started watching them during this time frame in the Eastern time zone and it would be 12:30am - 1am when they were finishing.

1980: 6pm
1981: 7pm (Maybe because they were postponed one day.)
1982-1998: 6pm.
1999-present: 5pm or 5:30pm depending

 

[Alex...]

Academy Approves Major Change To Best Picture Eligibility Rules.

• Expanded theatrical run of seven days, consecutive or non-consecutive, in 10 of the top 50 U.S. markets, no later than 45 days after the initial release in 2024;
• For late-in-the-year films with expansions after January 10, 2025, distributors must submit release plans to the Academy for verification;
• Release plans for late-in-the-year films must include a planned expanded theatrical run, as described above, to be completed no later than January 24, 2025;
• Non-U.S. territory releases can count toward two of the 10 markets;
• Qualifying non-U.S. markets include the top 15 international theatrical markets plus the home territory for the film.

Oscars: Academy Approves Major Change To Best Picture Eligibility Rules Requiring More Extensive Theatrical Runs

Long in the works, and indicating stronger support for theatrical exhibition in the increasing age of streamers, the Board of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has approved a landmark…

deadline.com

 

[JoeStemme]

The Academy has made many mistakes over the years, but one of the biggest is allowing day and date with streaming. Anything they can do to help theatrical is a good thing

 

[Jake Lipson]

It is important to note that these rules go into effect for the 2025 ceremony honoring films released in 2024. It will not impact films in the current 2023-24 cycle.

While I understand and appreciate the intention of supporting theatrical releases, I think it is potentially a very risky move to require such a wide release for small films from indie distributors prior to the nominations announcement. We'll see what happens.

 

[JoeStemme]

It is important to note that these rules go into effect for the 2025 ceremony honoring films released in 2024. It will not impact films in the current 2023-24 cycle.

While I understand and appreciate the intention of supporting theatrical releases, I think it is potentially a very risky move to require such a wide release for small films from indie distributors prior to the nominations announcement. We'll see what happens.

They did it for decades upon decades. They'll adapt,.

 

[Colin Jacobson]

Yup! I think he'll easily cinch Best Director and (possibly) Best Picture

We still have 4 months of movies left, so I don't like to view anything as a "sure thing".

But boy, "Oppy" sure feels like it should be the winner unless something remarkable "overtakes" it.

-Big hit
-Great reviews
-Serious subject
-"Epic" scope
-Director who has "paid his dues"

Just feels like it checks all the Oscar boxes.

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

I'm going to take a wild guess and say Killers of the Flower Moon will win more Academy Awards than Oppenheimer and maybe will win Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Actress.

 

[Robert Crawford]

I reserve judgement until I actually see Killers of the Flower Moon.

 

[Tino]

I'm going to take a wild guess and say Killers of the Flower Moon will win more Academy Awards than Oppenheimer and maybe will win Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Actress.

You’ve seen it already?

 

[Malcolm R]

I don't think it's a slam-dunk. The Irishman had 10 noms and zero wins.

 

[Joe Wong]

And even one of Scorcese's best films (IMO), Goodfellas, wasn't a slam dunk.

I think it should have won over Dances with Wolves (which was also strong), but didn't.

 

[WillG]

We still have 4 months of movies left, so I don't like to view anything as a "sure thing".

But boy, "Oppy" sure feels like it should be the winner unless something remarkable "overtakes" it.

-Big hit
-Great reviews
-Serious subject
-"Epic" scope
-Director who has "paid his dues"

Just feels like it checks all the Oscar boxes.

I think Nolan is certainly due, but I’m thinking that Barbie is actually going to give Oppy a run for it’s money (unless something else comes along later this year)

 

[Kevin Antonio (Kev)]

I will reserve judgment on this film until I see it, but I have a feeling Gladstone will be nominated. Best director race will be heavily towards nolan and gerwig ( one is due a oscar and the other one is the future)