Ocean's 11 DVD widescreen OUTSELLS pan & scan version

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  1. Ronald Epstein

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    I received some "inside" information which
    may or may not be available to the public as
    of yet.
    I thought I'd pass this little ditty along....

    Warner released Ocean's 11 in both WideScreen
    and P/S. The numbers are phenomenal, with the
    widescreen version outselling P/S two-to-one.
    That is, without looking at what it did at WalMart.
    Warner doesn't release two versions of their
    titles very often (think "Willy Wonka," but very
    few others), but I would think their success with
    Ocean's 11 might inspire them to continue with
    more two-version releases.
     
  2. JohnS

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    This is indeed great news, but I wonder if the numbers will change after the P&S people who mistakenly bought the WIDESCREEN version, and meant to buy the P&S, so they have to return it.
    This could effect the sales number.
    Maybe not, and if it does maybe hardly chage the numbers.

    BUT STILL...Very good news!
     
  3. Scott_MacD

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    This is encouraging.. [​IMG]
    Warner got my Widescreen $$$.
     
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    Great news, Ron. Thanks for sharing!
    Maybe someday we'll get that widescreen version of Exit To Eden...or maybe even Follow That Bird! [​IMG]
     
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    Funny. I just bought this last night at K-Mart. There were only two WS versions in a sea of P&S. [​IMG] Needless to say there's only one WS copy left. I go out of my way to buy WS copies of dual release films at Wal/K-Mart whenever possible.
    Good news indeed.
     
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    That's great news, even at my local Target I noticed that the space for Ocean's 11 ( Widescreen was empty ) but they had plenty of Pan & Scan available. The store clerk told me they had sold out of the widescreen version.
     
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    Pour it on! [​IMG]
    -- J.
     
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    Quote: "Funny. I just bought this last night at K-Mart. There were only two WS versions in a sea of P&S."
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    Because the WS copies sold out, of course [​IMG]
     
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    This must be some kind of mistake. All the market research shows that people prefer full screen to widescreen. [​IMG]
     
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    I think most Wal-Mart's offer both choices for big releases. Even my teeny, tiny local Wal-Mart (as WM's go) had a big standing display with both versions available.

    I'm not totally sure I buy into the "Wal-Mart only stocks/sells P&S versions" argument, since every dual release has been stocked in both versions in any Wal-Mart I've been in. But since they are so large, it can't hurt to keep the pressure on them to ensure they continue providing this choice.

    I think the warehouse clubs have been the biggest offenders, especially with all the dual releases that were out around last Christmas. But Costco has been coming around. Only WS for the past several dual releases ("A.I.," "Spy Game," "Ocean's Eleven").
     
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    You have to be vigilant. As I said in a previous post. My local BJ's Wholesale Club had both versions of Oceans 11. But, the price for the WS was $18.99 and the P&S was $16.99. I called the head buyer for BJ's. He was not happy. He is a WS fan and said the price should be the same for both. He did say the computer will show the correct price. But, he knew people would just see the prices posted. Well, the next day the price was adjusted.
     
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    That's good news! While I didn't care enough about the movie to purchase it, I did rent the widescreen version. Every little bit helps! [​IMG]
     
  17. Randy A Salas

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    I'm not sure what the revelation here is. When separate pan-and-scan and widescreen releases come out at the same time, the widescreen version always outsells the other--according to Videoscan. The key is figuring out how many sales are not being counted by Videoscan--Wal-Mart, Kmart and other mainstream retailers that have been hostile toward stocking widescreen. This is where the studios claim they have figures (their own) that show that people really want P&S, and it's a pretty big caveat to Videoscan's figures.
     
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    Wal-Mart data is no longer available to Videoscan the way it once was.
     
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    Something I thought was kind of funny-Steve's TV (Local HT/DVD store) had warning stickers on the P&S versions of the movie, saying that "this version contains the cropped version of the film", and showed a frame with the sides cut off.
     

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