OAR example images -- put yours here!

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  1. DaveF

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    Inspired by recent threads about OAR, as well as several interesting images, I thought we could have a thread for the purpose of collecting the interesting images people have created (for business cards, signatures, etc.) illustrating Original Aspect Ratio.
    Here's my contribution: an animated GIF image to illustrate P&S v. Widescreen.
    (Further optimized images; large one now
     
  2. Rob Robinson

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    I hope you don't mind, but that was over 360k... i made a smaller (44k), slightly smoother one based off of that real quick in Image ready.
    [​IMG]
    [Edited last by Rob Robinson on November 09, 2001 at 04:20 PM]
     
  3. DaveF

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    Rob - that's a nice revision. I knew mine was >300kB, but hadn't chopped it down yet. Thanks.
     
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    In an effort to make this graphic a reasonable size, I completely slaughtered the image quality.
    Anyway, it's supposed to be a shot from Tomorrow Never Dies. I'll re-do it again at some point in the near future...
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    Hard to believe I make my living as a digital artist from this example... [​IMG]
     
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    Robert,
    I like your animation, because it shows exactly what happens: one sees how much is missing with P&S, while also realizing that the image has to become smaller to fit the screen (funny, that's what they say about P&S versions [​IMG]).
    -Christian
     
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    Robert,
    Nice concept -- I was planning to do something similar next.
    With more colors (with a larger filesize penalty), it would work very well. I hadn't thought of using a TV graphic to frame the overal animation.
     
  7. DarrenA

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    Here's an example of the Pan and Scan process with the Mask of Zorro...
    Original 2.35:1 widescreen image on 4:3 display
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    4:3 Pan and Scan Window on 2.35:1 image
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    4:3 Pan and Scan image area enlarging for 4:3 display
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    4:3 Pan and Scan image fitting 4:3 display
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    Though this is just a representation, this illustrates the lack of sharpness and focus lost during the Pan and Scan process.
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    DarrenA
    The Academy Home Theater
     
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    I put together a page of examples from Ghostbusters, Labyrinth, The Dark Crystal, and The Iron Giant. But don't look if you haven't seen Iron Giant (major spoiler!)
    http://members.aol.com/mrabout/wide/
     
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    Rob - and please do not interpret this post as an attack on you. It is not.
    But your example is the one I was talking about with my own post whereby someone simply adds additional material to a frame and says, "See what happens when you have a widescreen movie - you get more information". While that is, in and of itself, true. It is NOT true that the SCALE of the picture remains the same for a WS movie frame vs. a P&S full screen movie frame.
    WS is simply NOT a matter of adding material to the sides of a frame. WS NECESSARILY reduces the size of people/objects so that the entire width of a frame can be displayed on the screen.
    Your example, unfortunately, would definitely give me the impression (if I did not know better) that a WS movie simply adds more information to the picture, without a comensurate loss in people/object size - and this is simply not true.
    The "better" example is the animated TV example that truly shows the picture shrinking so that more information on the sides can be shown.
    Regards,
    Sam
     
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    sam- agree 100%
    Bear in mind, I didn't create the origianl, or select any of the art, copy, or composition; I just pitched in to get the thing to a manageable size in case this thread grew.
    Which, by the way, even though the image area issue sam brought up is a good concern, I think the original image posted was a gret way to get this thread/discussion going.
    cheers [​IMG]
     
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    Sam,
    I made the original image, which Rob massaged into a reasonable size (The 'full' version is > 150kB; too large to post here, I realize. Follow the links in my initial post to see it).
    Actually, it was your thread that ultimately inspired me to make that little animation. But I plan to make another, addressing the issues that you brought up. I just haven't had time -- that was my first animated gif, and I'm still figuring out my software.
    Thanks for the feedback; hopefully I'll soon have another image which will meet your approval [​IMG]
    And I really like the Dark Crystal images -- one of my fav childhood movies. And the Zorro pics do a good job of showing the whole range of size & material issues.
     
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    I like those signture of the X-Wing and the TV(wish the screen up there wasn't so blurry), but anyways, here is my signture I made a month ago. While the pictures are not really showing the shinking of the characters, it still good. And by the way, I got the example pictures from Digtial Bits' widescreen example page(this is Blackhole by the way).
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    Hey, in the middle of all of this, I'm thinking to myself, "Where's Jan Strnad?".
    Jan did a VERY good little thing called "The AtomBrain Guide to Letterboxing". Here it is:
    http://www.mindspring.com/~atombrain/letterbox.html
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    Also check out this site, the Anamorphic Widescreen Support Page.
    http://www.thecinemalaser.com/anamorphic-enhancement-support-page.htm [​IMG]
    Then, there's the example I made up, based on a screen capture from the "Director's Edition" feature with Leonard Nimoy, on the DVD for Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. Here it is (click picture for full-size version):
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    DAVE/Memphis
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    MORE TV ON DVD, PLEASE!
    Do you like TV on DVD? Then check THIS out!
    ..... http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/ .....
    [Edited last by David Lambert on November 10, 2001 at 05:12 PM]
     
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    Kenneth - I'd seen your signature in your posts. I was hoping you'd contribute it to this thread [​IMG]
    And I remember seeing The Black Hole in the theater, as a kid. Bob the robot was awesome!
     
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    Second version of original, plus links, showing shrink-to-fit Fullscreen to Widescreen
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