NTSC sets with Automatic 16:9 mode

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  1. Curtis Anderson

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    I like Sony WEGAs but having to go into a menu every time you watch a DVD would be a complete pain. So what I'm wondering is this: Are there any sets that can "detect" when a 16:9-enhanced signal is coming in and automatically adjust the picture without the user doing anything at all? Of course, when there is no 16:9-enhanced image the set would have to automatically adjust back to 4:3 mode.

    Maybe there are no sets that can do this. But at least there should be some sets that can switch back and forth with a single button press on the remote.

    I'm specifically looking for a 27" set. But ya'll tell me what you know. Thanks.
     
  2. Curtis Anderson

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    Researching these models:

    Toshiba 27AF53 msrp $550

    JVC AV-27F713 msrp $550

    can't tell from the websites whether 16:9 mode is automatic or not.
     
  3. Jack Briggs

    Jack Briggs Executive Producer

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    Curtis, the FV-, HS-, and XBR-series WEGAs feature an automatic 16:9 mode.
     
  4. Curtis Anderson

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    Thanks for the info jack. Good to know. So I'm adding this model to my research:

    Sony KV-27FV310 msrp $650

    Seems too expensive for a 27", but i'm sure i could find it for lower.

    So does anybody have either the JVC or Toshiba models i listed up above? Or anybody with the Sony for that matter? I'm interested in hearing first hand impressions.
     
  5. Tom Fynan

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    Curtis,

    My 36" XBR WEGA has an automatic mode, but it only works with some DVD players. It worked with my old Panasonic, and a loaner Pioneer, but does not work with my current Proceed PDMT. The automatic option doesn't even appear on the Set-up menu, and so I now have to change into the squeeze mode manually each tome I use it. A minor pain, but worth it for the upgraded picture from my Proceed player.
     
  6. Curtis Anderson

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    Hey Tom. I've never heard of Proceed. So they make really good DVD players? I have a Toshiba. I wonder if the Sony set would work with it. Even if it didn't I bet it'd work with my Playstation 2, since it's a Sony product.
     
  7. Curtis Anderson

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    Adding another model:

    Samsung TXN2745FP msrp $500

    And check this out. This set does 480p! I've never seen a non-HD set before that did 480p. Pretty cool I think.

    I don't hear much about Samsung's quality. Maybe it's not so good.
     
  8. Jack Briggs

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    Curtis, Proceed is a very exclusive, high-end specialty manufacturer. Very expensive. Not sure as I post, but I think the Proceed player is based on a Panasonic chassis; Tom can clarify on that one.
     
  9. Tom Fynan

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    Curtis,

    Proceed is the less expensive line of products from Mark Levinson. Levinson is a very high end audio equipment manufacturer ($30,000 monoblock amplifier-type high end). Proceed products are in the $4,000-$10,000 range. Proceed equipment is mainly based on Levinson designs, but Levinson doesn't make a DVD player, so I don't know what the Proceed player is based on. Proceed's preamp/processor and DVD player are really exceptional - I bought them because I could see and hear obvious differnces from my older player. But like any high-end equipment they have their quirks, such as the problem with the auto-squeeze on the WEGA.
     
  10. MarkLandin

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    The Toshiba 27AF43 and 32AF43 have a 16:9 mode available from one button on the remote.
     
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    The strange thing is, that a 11 yr old Sony model (Kirara Basso series) was capable of auto detecting anamorphic signals and used to automatically switch to the squeeze mode. I have never undserstood why and how sometimes these companies actually go backwards rather than progress.

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    I have the JVC i'art 27FA44, which I believe is a new model, mine was manufactured August 2003). It has an automatic 16:9 mode, as well as a one touch button on the remote to over-ride it, or force it on if the DVD isn't flagged properly.

    When I got it I was unhappy with the geometry, and I screwed it up so badly the the service menu that I ended up returning it for a new one....

    The second one had equally bad gemoetry, but this time I recorded all the settings in the service menu and managed to tinker with it enough that I now have a nearly perfect picture to my eyes. Have not yet comfirmed this with video essentials, which I plan to pick up soon.

    The colour when in "theatre pro" mode is also fantastic, much better than sony.

    Incidently, I saw a 32" sony wega analog set running the other day in a store, in it's 16:9 mode. It had a severe tilt problem, at least an inch.


    In summary, despite it's falws, I still think it is the best among 27 inch flat screens.
     
  13. Matt_Terpstra

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    The Samsung TXN2745FP does in fact have a 16:9 mode, as well as 3:2 pulldown and a number of other DVD enhancing features. [​IMG] Assuming you get the right DVD player, I've found it to perform quite well in various modes, including 16:9, Anamorphic and 4:3 pan and scan modes.
     
  14. Dick White

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    My widescreen Pioneer (analog) has an automatic mode, but it doesn't give you 4:3 on non-anamorphic DVDs. It goes to another stretch mode, "Natural Wide" on a 4:3 picture, which is somewhat irritating. On letterboxed DVDs, it will switch to a zoom mode that is dependent on the aspect ratio of the picture.

    All that is becoming moot, because the anamorphic "signal" is getting lost when I switch the DVD video through my receiver. That didn't happen on my old Pioneer receiver, but it does on my current Denon and another more recent Pioneer that I tried. Works fine if I hook the DVD player video directly to the RPTV, but I don't want to do that so now I have to switch manually. And you can't select a mode with a single button, you have to cycle through them. Bummer.
     

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