Now the "Disc Rot" Issue Seems to be Affecting My Blu-rays...Can Someone Lend any Assistance? (1 Viewer)

[Nick*Z]

I JUST had the drive and laser assembly replaced. It's not even a year.

Doesn't matter. A defective lens can happen anytime.

 

[Nick*Z]

I was listening to somebody on a radio show saying that Twister was the first title on DVD. It's among the first titles which was released on March 25, 1997. Mortal Kombat is another one. There probably were some others.

A full frame Driving Miss Daisy and Chariots of Fire was among that first batch of DVD from WB. They both looked atrocious.

 

[TravisR]

My DVDs of Vertigo and Spartacus (both non-anamorphic) were early casualties, definitely not due to handling. I have had a few Blu-rays go south. A couple of these were classical music titles - Opera Gala from Baden Baden (the one with Netrebko) and Bizet's Carmen. Also the British version of Gone With the Wind. I had quite a few problematical laserdiscs go bad.

I had one of the earliest copies of Mallrats get stolen from me and once that disc started failing, I took some glee in knowing that the thief most likely now had a coaster.

 

[Robert Harris]

There are no layer changes on the Blu-ray of Conjuring, but with regard to the DVDs, I don't believe so -- Selena wouldn't even get past the Warner logo load screen.

Conjuring should be a BD50, unless you somehow have a bootleg.

 

[Kaskade1309]

Conjuring should be a BD50, unless you somehow have a bootleg.

So are you saying that there IS a layer change? If so, it never triggered any kind of pause on any Blu-ray player I ever watched it on (as DVDs do when they're dual layered).

 

[Kaskade1309]

Doesn't matter. A defective lens can happen anytime.

When I received the player back with the new drive, it fixed ALL the issues I was having with 4K discs -- and they continue to play fine. It's random DVDs and Blu-rays that are acting up now (though The Conjuring was the first and only 1080p Blu thus far).

 

[Malcolm R]

So are you saying that there IS a layer change? If so, it never triggered any kind of pause on any Blu-ray player I ever watched it on (as DVDs do when they're dual layered).

I've never had any layer change delay/pause while watching any blu-ray as it does with DVD. I'd never know where the layer change is on the disc (though presumably some BR discs have them) unless it caused a problem.

 

[Kaskade1309]

I've never had any layer change delay/pause while watching any blu-ray as it does with DVD. I'd never know where the layer change is on the disc (though presumably some BR discs have them) unless it caused a problem.

Right -- but I was only asking because he mentioned in a reply to me that it was a certain Blu-ray type (BD50) as if to say there SHOULD have been a layer change of some kind.

 

[Robert Harris]

So are you saying that there IS a layer change? If so, it never triggered any kind of pause on any Blu-ray player I ever watched it on (as DVDs do when they're dual layered).

There are no pauses. Data is cached. Problem players can make them obvious.

 

[JoshZ]

What kind of junk player pauses at layer changes? Even on DVD, that problem was resolved around 1998.

 

[JohnRice]

What kind of junk player pauses at layer changes? Even on DVD, that problem was resolved around 1998.

Exactly. I haven't seen a layer change in longer than I can remember.

 

[JohnRice]

Anyway, I can easily count on one hand the number of discs that have ever failed for me. After I'd had it for a few years, my Panasonic 820 started having trouble playing some discs, particularly UHD. I ran a brush cleaner disc in it a couple times, and it's been fine ever since. I specify a brush cleaner, because it is inevitable that some haze will build up on the lens, and a brushless cleaner will do nothing to remove that. It has to be physically removed. It can't be blown off.

I should probably add that I live in a fairly dry climate, which could reduce the incidence of disc deterioration.

 

[David Norman]

What kind of junk player pauses at layer changes? Even on DVD, that problem was resolved around 1998.

A player starting to have issues. It also was the most common failure point to many of the discs that were improperly pressed like that batch of WellGo, Criterion, etc from 10+ years ago from the Sonopress (Euro) Plant
.

 

[bobclampett]

My tips are never touch the disc surface, look at it before placing in the player, if it does have smudges on the surface, use a clean microfiber cloth moistened with rubbing alcohol and gently wipe in a radial direction from the center of disc to the outer edge. Never clean using a circular motion. I have a Panasonic UB420 and never have had an issue with any Blu Ray or 4K disc. I’ve had two DVD failures and both were flipper discs. My guess is this was a lamination failure, a problem that also affected the two sided Laser Discs. I’ve never used a lens cleaning disc and would advise against its use. Store your discs in a conditioned space, away from sunlight and heat sources. I’m confident my discs will out live me.

 

[Kaskade1309]

There are no pauses. Data is cached. Problem players can make them obvious.

What kind of junk player pauses at layer changes? Even on DVD, that problem was resolved around 1998.

A player starting to have issues. It also was the most common failure point to many of the discs that were improperly pressed like that batch of WellGo, Criterion, etc from 10+ years ago from the Sonopress (Euro) Plant
.

My UB9000 pauses on DVDs with layer changes, and has since I first bought it years ago. The Oppo BDP-83 I had in the 1080p era never did this -- or ate right through the pause to the point you didn't notice it -- but I just assumed this was the Panasonic being a bit "finnicky" with dual layered DVDs as it upscaled the content to 4K.

 

[Kaskade1309]

My tips are never touch the disc surface, look at it before placing in the player, if it does have smudges on the surface, use a clean microfiber cloth moistened with rubbing alcohol and gently wipe in a radial direction from the center of disc to the outer edge.

My discs are pristine on the surface.

Never clean using a circular motion.

Right -- always rub from the center hub outward in straight lines (this is how you wipe CDs as well). Vinyl is another story; the records should be cleaned by following the direction of the grooves...

I have a Panasonic UB420 and never have had an issue with any Blu Ray or 4K disc. I’ve had two DVD failures and both were flipper discs. My guess is this was a lamination failure, a problem that also affected the two sided Laser Discs. I’ve never used a lens cleaning disc and would advise against its use.

Why do you advise against using the laser lens cleaner? The one I own doesn't use brushes.

Store your discs in a conditioned space, away from sunlight and heat sources. I’m confident my discs will out live me.

They are in a cool, air conditioned space and are kept in their original cases in a bookcase-esque shelf system. I still experience these freezes.

 

[cinerama10]

My tips are never touch the disc surface, look at it before placing in the player, if it does have smudges on the surface, use a clean microfiber cloth moistened with rubbing alcohol and gently wipe in a radial direction from the center of disc to the outer edge. Never clean using a circular motion. I have a Panasonic UB420 and never have had an issue with any Blu Ray or 4K disc. I’ve had two DVD failures and both were flipper discs. My guess is this was a lamination failure, a problem that also affected the two sided Laser Discs. I’ve never used a lens cleaning disc and would advise against its use. Store your discs in a conditioned space, away from sunlight and heat sources. I’m confident my discs will out live me.

Excellent advice . All digital discs will eventually stop working.They have a limited life unlike film which can last forever.

 

[David Norman]

My UB9000 pauses on DVDs with layer changes, and has since I first bought it years ago. The Oppo BDP-83 I had in the 1080p era never did this -- or ate right through the pause to the point you didn't notice it -- but I just assumed this was the Panasonic being a bit "finnicky" with dual layered DVDs as it upscaled the content to 4K.

Which it should never have done. I've had numerous players since 1997 -- multiple Sony's, Panasonic (including a 820), Oppo 93 and 103, a $30 throwaway Seiki, a $40LG clearance 4K player, and several PC DVD and BD -- none of them ever paused at layer changes on any disc except for a couple poorly burned discs

 

[Brian Husar]

The only issue I have had recently is my Panny UB820 starting to have artifacts on Criterion’s 4K disc of After Hours. It always starts “tileing” when Paul goes in to Kiki’s apartment. I have exchanged the disc 4 times and every disc always does it on the Panny at the same spot. Yes I have cleaned the disc, I even had the Panny serviced, I even updated the firmware with no luck. It was doing it on East Of Eden during the scene where Dean reads from the bible, but has since stopped. Now, I have the Sony UBX700 as a back up player and After Hours is totally fine on that player.

 

[willyTass]

get the UK pressing of after hours . It’s pressed at sony austria. The american one is pressed in a dump in mexico