I bought the Epson 8700UB and so far i am not that impressed. It doesnt look as good as my tv when playing my games,right now i have it on my wall in my bed room and its a beigh wall. I ordered matirial to make a screen and was wanting a screen that was 130". Its going to be in my basement in a room that is dedicated to my home theater. No windows and i will be viewing with no ambient light. Im hoping when i make my screen it will look better but as now it dont. Forza 4 just doesnt look like it should.