Non western Westerns

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  1. Darren Crouse

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    Howdy folks, I'm preparing for a seminar on the aforementioned for my Master's Programme in Popular Culture and as you might have guessed one of the seminars is on the ubiquitous Western genre. However, my presentation is on non-western westerns, and I seem to be lacking on the choices. Here are the one's I've managed to conjure up. Yojimbo, Seven Samurai, The Road Warrior (Mad Max), Leone's Man with no Name Trilogy. So if anyone has any more suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.

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    Darren Crouse.
     
  2. Haggai

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    Can you define what you mean by "non-western Westerns"? If you just mean that they were filmed somewhere else besides the Old West, all those movies you mentioned qualify (though I know that Leone filmed some of Once Upon a Time in the West, right after the Dollars trilogy, in the US). Leone's films, of course, are set in the Old West, unlike the other ones you listed.
     
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  4. Darren Crouse

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    Non-westerns in this case represent those elements of the west (ie. iconography, landscape, binary oppositions (white/black hats), heroic myth, chase sequences, etc) but displaced in another country. For instance, The Road Warrior, although filmed in Australia is in fact a western not filmed in the traditional 'manifest destiny' west: America. I do hope this helps a bit.

    Thanks for the help so far and keep'em coming.

    Darren Crouse.
     
  5. Haggai

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    OK Darren, so being set in another country is the key--doesn't that disqualify the Leone films, like I mentioned above?
     
  6. Darren Crouse

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    That's true, Leone's works were made in another country but were meant to be American in setting, so I stand corrected. Maybe I just love his work so much that I was willing to bend the rules a little. However, I could always use the argument that a Fistful of Dollars is a retelling of Yojimbo thereby qualifying it as a kind of intermediary source [​IMG].

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    Are you restricted to films? Because if you aren't may I suggest the TV series Firefly.
     
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    The Three Amigos is set in Mexico. [​IMG]

    "Jefe, would you say that I have a plethora of pinatas?"
     
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    The original Star Trek TV series has often been described as a western set in the future.
     
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    Star Wars: A New Hope--sorry, I just noticed Alex already mentioned this one.
     
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    Whity (Fassbinder shot this on some of Leone's sets in Spain)

    The Wild Bunch is set in Mexico
     
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    Does "The Man From Snowy River" count as a Western?

    Jason
     
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    I'd second it, and put forth the upcoming related film, Serenity as well.
     
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    Ernest, great call on OUTLAND.

    Surprised you didn't also add in A BUG'S LIFE which of course is just another version of 7 Samurai (there's a transition film for you).


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    Will the spoof of BLAZING SADDLES work? Certainly it extracts the iconography and showcases it for the sake of humor.


    edit add - DESPERADO/El MARIACHI and perhaps KILL BILL
     

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