Since Christmas I've been researching receivers and had essentially decided on a refurb Denon 2803 from an authorized Denon e-retailer that had a few different models available. Now, today, there are no Denon refurbs on the net anywhere!!! Anyone have any idea why they have been pulled? I called the retailer and was told that they were discontinued(?) ! Not the sharpest knife in the drawer this guy, so I chose not to interogate any further. Guess I should have pulled the trigger sooner.