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Next Hanna-Barbera set?

Discussion in 'TV on DVD and Blu-ray' started by Matthew Green, Oct 6, 2004.

  1. Randy Korstick

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    Yes I believe they separated the shows in the 2nd half of the 2nd season.
     
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    According to Wikipedia, 16 episodes were produced, one per week. But we know how untrustworthy Wikipedia can be, so I would not necessarily rely on them...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mumbly_Cartoon_Show

    And yes, it is true that Grape Ape was separated from the block beginning December 4, 1976... in order to expand The Scooby-Doo/Dynomutt Hour by one half-hour to augment the season 1 reruns of Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!, to become The Scooby-Doo/Dynomutt Show.

    ~Ben
     
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    I seem to remember there being two Mumblys and two Tom and Jerry per one hour show. But I am going off memory.
     
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    ClassicTVMan1981X

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    If there had indeed been two Mumbly segments, that would amount to being two per week meaning, sharing eight full hours with Tom & Jerry and Grape Ape.

    ~Ben
     
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    When Saturday morning shows did get a 2nd or 3rd season it was typically between 6-8 new episodes and then reruns so this would fall in line with that.
     
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    Typically, yes, but Mumbly (unlike the other segments) didn't have an existing backlog of episodes.
     
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    Regarding Mumbly: Here is a link to the episodes listed on the U.S. Copyright Office site.

    These listings can be confusing as a lot of times, something will be filed multiple times as part of different records. Also, they often give "publication dates" but as these were filed years after the fact, I wouldn't take them as Gospel.

    I see listings for individual cartoon titles, as well as half-hour shows, all jumbled together. According to the listings, the half-hour version of the series had THREE cartoons in each show.

    I haven't taken the time to sort through all this...

    https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?Search_Arg=Mumbly&Search_Code=TALL&PID=9bXeMxxoBgWO2pmaUG3xN-juoz&SEQ=20190703113354&CNT=100&HIST=1
     
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    Okay, I must be crazy. I went through all this stuff and found rundowns for "The Tom & Jerry/Mumbly Show." They are listed as separate cartoons, and as part of this series.

    I found no listings for "The Mumbly Cartoon Show" or "The Tom & Jerry/Grape Ape/Mumbly Show." As I know the season started out with all three and they were split along the way -- like I said, take these records with a grain of salt as some of them obviously aired first in the longer format.

    Looks like the middle cartoon is Mumbly, the others are Tom & Jerry.

    9/11/1976
    Kitten Sitters
    Fleet Feet Versus Flat Foot
    Termites Plus Two

    9/18/1976
    Hypochondriac Lion
    The Great Hot Car Heist
    Give 'Em The Air

    9/25/1976
    Watch Out Watchdog
    The Magical Madcap Caper
    The Super Cyclists

    10/2/1976
    Outfoxed Fox
    The Big Breakout Bust
    Towering Fiasco

    10/9/1976
    Beanstalk Buddies
    The Return Of Bing Bong
    Two Stars Are Born

    10/16/1976
    The Sorcerer's Apprentices
    The Super-Dooper Super-Cop Contest
    Hold That Pose

    10/23/1976
    Chickenrella
    The Big Ox Bust
    Double Trouble Crow

    10/30/1976
    See Dr. Jackal And Hide
    The Great Graffiti Gambit
    (No third cartoon listed)

    11/6/1976
    It's No Picnic
    Taking Stock
    Big Feet

    11/13/1976
    Triple Trouble
    The Littermugg
    The Bullfighter

    11/20/1976
    No Way Stowaway
    The Perils Of The Purple Baron
    The Ski Bunny

    11/25/1976
    No Bones About It
    Fatbeard The Pirate Fracas
    An Ill Wind

    11/27/1976
    Mammoth Manhunt
    The Big Snowfoot Snow Job
    Wacky World Of Sports

    12/4/1976
    Safe But Sorry
    Sherlock's Badder Brother
    Gopher Broke

    12/11/1976
    Tricky McTrout
    UFO's A No-No
    Tennis Menace

    12/18/1976
    Castle Wiz
    Hyde And Seek
    Grim And Bear It

    This seems to make more sense to me, if it was a half-hour show. Two Tom & Jerry and one Mumbly made up a half-hour. The Grape Ape cartoons were longer, only two to a half-hour, right?

    (If it stayed an hour, then these listings are wrong!)

    But I still don't see how they made a half-hour show out of Mumbly later.
     
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    Yes, there were two Grape Apes per week, both 11 minutes.

    ~Ben
     
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    I just compared the above list with Aaron Handy's list of the first season shows. It looks like according to the copyright records, they dropped the third Tom & Jerry from each show and replaced it with Mumbly. They started with show #7, so T&J/Mumbly #1 is based on T&J/Grape Ape #7. So the missing third cartoon in T&J/Mumbly show #8 is probably "Planet Of The Dogs."

    Shows #15 and #16 were flipped, #15 becoming #10 and #16 becoming #9. Then the revised #1-6 aired as T&J/Mumbly #11-16. Just to keep things interesting, I guess -- maybe they were sequenced this way to stay in order following whichever T&J/Grape Ape shows had last aired?

    This is according to the copyright office listings. Who knows if they are anything close to accurate?
     
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    Mark,

    I do wish we were able to know exactly which episodes were repeated, regarding:
    * The Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm Show (most of the half-hour episodes of this series on the 1972-73 version of The Flintstone Comedy Hour were)
    * Space Ghost and Frankenstein, Jr. (all repeats, and edited for content, as these were both originally aired in 1966 on CBS as part of different shows: Space Ghost and Dino Boy and Frankenstein, Jr. and The Impossibles, respectively; this amalgamated package ran on NBC from November 27, 1976 to September 3, 1977)
    * The Scooby-Doo/Dynomutt Show (the season 1 Scooby-Doo, Where Are You? reruns, for shows 14-16)
    * Scooby's All-Star Laff-A-Lympics (again, the season 1 Scooby-Doo, Where Are You? reruns, and for shows 9-16, the 1976 The Scooby-Doo Show and Dynomutt reruns, the latter of which were cut up as two 11-minute two-part segments)
    * Skatebirds (the Woofer & Whimper segments on the first run of the series, and later as part of its own half-hour it shared with The (Three) Robonic Stooges in early 1978, were heavily-edited repeats of Clue Club)
    * Scooby's All-Stars (the 1978-79 season cutdown of Scooby's All-Star Laff-A-Lympics) (the 1976 Scooby-Doo reruns on shows 1-8, and for shows 9-16, the reruns of Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels and Laff-A-Lympics)
    * The Godzilla Super 90 (the Jonny Quest reruns, on shows 9-13)
    * Buford and the Galloping Ghost (all repeats of the last two segments of Yogi's Space Race: The Buford Files and The Galloping Ghost)
    * Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels (1980; in addition to the 16 new segments that year, each week also had a rerun of the 1977 and '78 segments to fill out each half hour)


    ~Ben
     
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    I wish they will release gulliver.
     
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    Who is to say (in the case of Laff-A-Lympics) that the "new" Scooby-Doo episodes were necessarily aired first?

    "The Robonic Stooges" was retitled "The THREE Robonic Stooges" when the half-hour series started, and the title cards on the cartoons were remade to reflect this.
     
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    Robonic stooges please warner release these classic.
     
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    People are saying that Jonny Quest is missing sound effects, and they having been missing for years. Could it be that those were added during syndication and the blu is correct?
     
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    Early syndicated prints also had a Mike Road voiceover heard in the intro, so there was also that.

    ~Ben
     
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    A man can dream...
    20190706_222501.

    Still hope we'll see an official release of Quick Draw someday. Anyone excited for Lippy the Lion releasing this coming week?
     
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    What do triangles and octagons mean on UK DVD's?
     
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    weirdly coincidental or not, someone uploaded a USA Cartoon Express recording to the Archive . org site very recently, that has this episode included, recording is in good quality, so i grabbed the episode from that :)
     
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    Yep! I'm ordering both new releases . But if the people at WBA don't release Quickdraw (among others ) I just might el cabong them!
     

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