Newbies Question: "Progressive Scan" vs. Standard

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  1. Shawn_T

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    How much a "Progressive Scan" image (DVD or XBox game, specially XBox games) looks better than 'Standard' version?

    I have a Sony WEGA 36" (36XBR250, 1999 model non-P"rogressive Scan") and I am envious that the newer models (like 36XBR450) have TWO COMPONENT connectors and "Progressive Scan" feature.

    Does a game look much better in Progressive Scan? If so, HOW much better?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Graeme Clark

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    Everything looks better in progressive scan... especially when compared to an interlaced Wega and there huge icky scan lines.

    Try and find a store that has both side by side with the same material.
     
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    Thanks for the info. So does this "Progressive Scanning" algorithm "Eliminates" the INTERLACING altogether?
     
  4. Dave Falasco

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    There are others on this forum who are far more qualified to answer this than I, but I'll give it a shot...

    It's hard to quantify the difference between a progressively-scanned image and an interlaced one, because really it depends on the quality of your TV's internal line doubler. From my understanding, a non-progressively-scanned image will be line-doubled by your television, but since this is done in the analog domain and not digitally, it results in an image that won't look quite as smooth and artifact-free as one done by a prog-scan source component.

    I have a prog-scan DVD player with the ability to switch from progressive to interlaced on the fly, and I have gone back and forth with movies quite a bit to compare the two. I would say that the difference is noticeable, but marginal. I would never be able to look at an image and tell you if it was progressive or interlaced, but if you switched back and forth, I'd be able to tell you which was which. However, the differences are pretty darn small. BUT, keep in mind that I am viewing it on a Pioneer Elite set, which has a reputation for a good line-doubler. So while the difference may be small on my TV, on someone else's TV it might be a bit more noticeable.

    Now, to your question, are you missing something without progressive scanning on your TV? Well, sure, I guess. A bit. Is it worth dropping another 3 to 6 grand on a new TV to get? In my humble opinion, hell no!

    That's my take on it--I've read other comments where people seem to think there is a world of difference between progressive-scanning and interlaced images. I am skeptical that the difference is as great as they claim, unless the line-doubler in their TVs are really sub-par. But like I said, there are people here with far more experience than I, so you may find quite a difference of opinion. Still, I say enjoy the heck out of what you have, you really aren't missing a great deal by not having progressive scanning.
     
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    To Dave Falasco:
    Thanks so much for great and 'comforting' response. Now I can happily go back and finish Halo and Munch's Oddysee! [​IMG]
    Bill Gate's new TOY opened a MAJOR flood and debate on this PS and HDTV thing! I guess he is trying to hint that HDTV is the way of future! (which is of course, but M$'s way!)
    Can you say Microsoft HDTV Broadcasting?! [​IMG]
     
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    Glad I could help, Shawn! Believe me, I have spent the last 10 years of my life worrying that my brand-new receiver didn't have Pro-Logic II, or my brand-new video camera wasn't a digital camera, or my brand-new computer wasn't fast enough...after a long time I finally realized I was spending so much time worrying about what I didn't have that I wasn't really enjoying what I had! Not trying to get all Chinese-fortune-cookie on you, but you've got a great set, and you've got a cutting-edge gaming console. You should be in gaming heaven! Don't worry about a few bells and whistles that other TV sets have--that's always going to be the case.
    Boy, that sounds awfully stuffy, I know. I guess I'm just trying to say, there's always a new thingamajig out there that your stuff doesn't have. The trick is to forget about what else is out there and just enjoy what you've got. You've got a sweet set-up, dude, I'm sure Halo rocks on your rig!
    Of course, I don't always practice what I'm preaching, as both my wife and my bank account can attest to... [​IMG]
     
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