new small TV

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  1. Sathyan

    Sathyan Second Unit

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    My 4-yr old TV (a GE 19" using a Samsung tube) is on its deathbed. Colors are rendered incorrectly (like in Criterion DVD "color bars" red is pink) and the whole picture is getting progressively darker.

    So it needs to be replaced...
    I have been watching my DVD's through my VCR (modulating to RF from composite) so I'd hope to correct that problem as well with the new purchase

    Here's what I need
    cable-ready (RF)
    composite in
    s-video in
    somewhere in the 19-24" range
    under $300
    NTSC - I'm in the US
    front composite would be nice for my digicam

    picture quality is more important to me than size

    are there any small widescreen TV's (I watch more DVD's than VHS or CATV)

    Video sources:
    10% PC (s-video) for captured music videos (MPEG) and games
    05% VHS VCR (composite or RF)
    60% DVD (composite, s-video, or component)
    25% analog cable box (RF or composite)

    Does four years seem like a short lifespan for a TV? I noticed in Consumer Reports GE is not reliable so I will probably avoid that brand. My audio equipment is Onkyo but they don't make televisions (nor do Denon, HK, or Marantz).

    I've found a lot less assistance (reviews, etc.) on the web for TVs than audio equipment. The HT sites are rarely interested in smaller-size tubes it appears. I can't go larger due to budget and my studio appartment - already packed with 5.1 channels of audio - lacks the space


    I'm wondering about the necessity of flatscreen. In your opinion does it make a big difference?

    some possibilities (from BB, CC, Sears & Crutchfield):
    Toshiba 20AF42 $260 (20, C/S/C, FS)
    JVC AV20D303 $230 (20, C/S/C, nonflat)
    JVC AV20F703 $280 (20, C/S/C, FS)
    Panny CT20SX12D $300 (20, C/S/C, FS)

    amazingly Sony in this range lacks s-video!

    thanks for your help,
    sathyan
     
  2. Thi Them

    Thi Them Producer

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    I'm also looking for a TV in the range $200-300. I think it will mainly be used for cable.

    ~T
     
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  4. Thi Them

    Thi Them Producer

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    I'm bumping this thread up, in case anyone wanted to post a reply but was unable to do so because the thread was closed.

    ~T
     
  5. ThomasL

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    All the choices you list are good ones to check out. I own a Toshiba 20AF41 and have been happy with it for the past 18 months. We use it in our fireplaced living room for cold winter nights just like tonight - the WAF kept the size down to the 20-24 inch range. [​IMG] I did find the geometry somewhat off "out of the box" and did need to enter the service menu to "correct" it (along with some grayscale adjustment since it also runs very hot/blue out of the box especially in the lower IRE range). But overall, I am pleased with the set and would recommend it.
    I would say if this is your main tv and you have room for a 27 inch non-flat tube set, spend the $300 there. The 90 percent or so increase in screen real estate will make a big difference when watching dvds - especially 2:35:1
    good luck,
    --tom
     
  6. Brice

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    I picked up my Samsung TXL2091F for less than $220 at Magnolia Hifi here in California. I love this T.V., it's got component video, clean picture (i don't detect any distortion), flat screen (yes i feel that once you go flat, it's hard to go back [​IMG] ), svideo, and even... *gasp* 16x9 verticle squeeze. I love this TV and i feel that it will do for me until i get my hdtv in the near future (college kid= not much money you know)...
    ~Brice
     
  7. Bob Graz

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    Check out the 20" JVC D-Series. I believe it's selling for around $220.
     
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    Thi Them Producer

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    Thi,
    I vote for the Samsung 27". You would get component video inputs with the anamorphic squeeze and a larger picture at lowered price. That's just my opinion with my vote. [​IMG]
     
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    i agree with tina, go with the bigger screen for less, and also because i love my samsung too.
    ~Brice
     
  11. Thi Them

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    I looked at some past threads, and some people didn't seem satisfied with the Samsung. Also, to get a great picture from Samsung, it sounds like I need to make some adjustments in the service menu, is this true?
    There is also a 24" Toshiba flat for $50 less than those two: http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=...cat=24&scat=27
    ~T
     
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    A local authorized Panasonic dealer is running a special this weekend on the CT-27D32 (standard tube 2-tuner PIP) for $299. Is this a good one? I'm talking geometry, red push (poss. correctable in the service menu if it exists) etc.
     
  13. Sathyan

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    OK, I went to Best Buy and looked at at TV's. I think I will go with the Toshiba 24AF42 - a 24" flat screen.
    Any thoughts on this set?

    PQ of Tosh was on par with Sony and ahead of Panny, Advent, Philips and Magnavox - tho. Advent was cheap - never heard of that brand for TV's before - but it was not a huge difference. Best Buy was playing RF "Everybody Loves Raymond" which didn't look great on any TV - even the $3500 Plasma - they should at least demo with DVD.

    It appears that you can't get s-video input without buying flat screen in the sub-27" range (going bigger will require new furniture).

    What is the "proper" size at a viewing distance of 7 ft?

    So a 20" FS Tosh costs $250; for another $100 I can get 24".


    Assuming 4:3 aspect ratio:
    Diag Size Area
    19 173.28
    20 192
    24 276.48

    So a 24" has 44% more viewable area than a 20".
    Someone should make a 24" widescreen. I guess when 16:9 gets more popular this can become a dedicated 4:3 set for VHS.

    thanks,
    sathyan
     
  14. Thi Them

    Thi Them Producer

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    Good Guys is having a 10% off sale this weekend for purchases over $200. Also, if you buy it from their website, you get free shipping and pay no tax.

    ~T
     
  15. David G Greene

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    I own a JVC I 'Art. (JVC AV20F703)
    Best TV in tha house.
    [​IMG]
     
  16. Rob TT

    Rob TT Stunt Coordinator

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    I'm going to try to take the cake. I just bought a 20" Flat Screen Apex with a built in DVD player at circuit city for $250 only to find out Sears has it for $200. I'm going to get circuit city to pricematch at 110%, plus I had a 10% money back coupon that gave me a $25 gift card. Here are the specs:
    1 S-Video input, 2 rear
    Trilingual color icon on-screen display
    V-chip rating control
    KODAK Picture CD compatible
    Playable formats: DVD-Video, CD, SVCD, VCD, CD-R/RW, MP3
    MP3 playback
    Coaxial digital audio output
    Built-in screen saver
    Programmable playback sequence
    Full function remote control
    Sears.com Apex 20" flatscreen
     
  17. DaViD Boulet

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    Wow...so it looks like Samsung makes a 27" TV with 16x9 compression for anamorphic DVDs that is flat and has decent PQ?
    Do they have a 32 inch model that's under $500? I have a friend who has a $500 TV limit and i want to get her the best 16x9-compatible TV we can find for the money.
    how about either of these:
    4x3 27" Samsung with 16x9 mode (less than $500):
    http://www.bestbuy.com/Detail.asp?m=...=27&e=11101072
    4x3 27" HD samsug with 1080I and 480P compatibility and 16x9 mode (a little more than $600):
    http://www.bestbuy.com/Detail.asp?m=...=27&e=11101060
    Thanks!!!
     
  18. Rob TT

    Rob TT Stunt Coordinator

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    ended up taking the Apex back, 2x DVD player wasnt cutting it
     

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