New Pioneer VSX-D912-K

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  1. RickardL

    RickardL Second Unit

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    Pioneer announced some new stuff recently and among those
    were a receiver, VSX-D912K, which seems to be quite capable:
    o 110 watts x 6
    o Auto MCACC with microphone
    o Dolby Digital EX
    o DTS ES, 96/24
    o NEO 6
    o Dolby Pro Logic II
    o Component Video Switching
    o 5 Assignable digital inputs
    o 7.1 channel inputs
    o All channel pre-outs
    o 96/24-bit DAC
    o Double precision 8-bit Motorola DSP
    o price $475
    o Availability March

    What stands to me, at that price, is the auto MCACC and
    the component switching, "allowing both progressive and interlaced NTSC and HDTV signals to be passed to the television or monitor".

    Anyone think this sounds good? I think this sounds
    almost too good...

    source: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pi...,92533,00.html
     
  2. Angelo.M

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    Too good. My guess is that this thing won't sound any better than the 811, which isn't great.
     
  3. RickardL

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    The successor to the 811 is VSX-D812K which is
    similar to the VSX-D912K but less Watts, no Auto MCACC,etc.
    So, the new 912 is probably a couple of notches better
    than the current 811.
     
  4. Angelo.M

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    Better how? In terms of features and a little power? Maybe. In terms of sound quality? I would bet the answer is "no." It would be great to be wrong.
     
  5. ChadLB

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    Yes that is correct...
     
  6. Ben_E

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    Wow very very interesting and a great price. Now what is exactly the point of going with say a Pioneer Elite 45tx versus this? I'm willing to bet this will be on ebay for around $300, the 45tx being around $900 on ebay. Is the 45tx really worth an extra $500? I mainly ask because I'm looking to upgrade my receiver in the future and I thought I had decided on the 45tx but now I'm not so sure.
     
  7. BrianJ>Y

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    The 45 should be a significant step up in terms of sound quality...it's sound is very similar to the 47 and 49. If I've read correctly, the 49 has been regarded my many reviewers as one of the best if not the best sounding receivers out there. More so for HT than music I would presume.

    Also, the 45 is $825 shipped and if you are on an even tighter budget than try the 43, which many have said sounds identical to the 45 but without the auto calibration (manual one) for $700 shipped, full warranty.

    http://www.docdvd.com/index.shtml

    scroll to the bottom and click the "click here" for equipment link.

    -Brian
     
  8. Stephen Hopkins

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    I agree with Brian. The 43 and 45 would sound a great deal better than the 912, but i'm guessing it's mainly due to the amps. I would be willing to bet that the 912 would make a great Pre-Pro when matched with some good amps, especially with the Auto-MCACC. I'm considering giving this a try some time this summer, probably starting off with the 912 and a good 2ch amp and adding other amps from there.

    Anyone else w/ opinions on the 912 as a pre-pro, please chime in [​IMG]
     
  9. Pablo Abularach

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    I think Pioneer receivers are great because of price/features, no sound quality, the target market is entry level, and in here, I think they are the best in the market. They will beat JVC, Panasonic and other brands at this price range, and in some cases Sony. But in a tight budget I think pioneer is the best bang for the buck. But this is only my opinion.

    I will sure try to audition the 912 and see what is capable of. Maybe it is a good option as the 811 has been for a lot of people here.
     
  10. Daniel Mann

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    The 45 is available here in the UK as the VSX-D2011.
    I've just bought one as an upgrade from my Pioneer VSX-E06
    and it is awesome.
     
  11. David G Greene

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    Daniel,

    Can yoou post a pic?


    please!



    [​IMG]
     
  12. Daneel

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    Spec for D2011 is here

    You can get a nice hi-res picture (423kb) from here
     
  13. Gustavo Meira

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    how about a picture of the back panel?
     
  14. MikeRP

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    I have a 45 TX and the sound is fantastic. The processing is outstanding and the MCACC is something I couldn't do without.

    Now, I'm wondering if the 912 will have the equilizer capabilities of the 45.

    Regardless, when it comes out I'm going to bring it home for a demo and then take it back.

    The 45 is a great pre-pro and this thing may be really the best thing that's happened to get peolpe started into seperates. $475 bucks plus another 400 to spend on amps - nice.

    Mike
     
  15. Ben_E

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    Mike be sure to let us know how the 912 would stack up to the 45tx, I'm very interested to see how it would do. And I would be surprised if the 912 had an equalizer comparable to the 45tx.
     
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    For all we know it could be a rebadged 41TX in consumer make-up.
     
  17. Stephen Hopkins

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    Brae,

    The amp is probably the same from the current 811/41. The processing seems to be different since different DACS are used. The biggest difference is the addition of the AUTO MCACC which I beleive would make the D912K a great choice as a pre-pro as well as a great entry level receiver.
     
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    It looks like the current 811/41.

    Thanks RickardL
     
  20. Stephen Hopkins

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    The screen is recessed more, the door is thicker, and there are more buttons out side the door. The microphone for auto MCACC is also connected in that picture.

    Thanks for the pic [​IMG]
     

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