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Discussion in 'DVD' started by Neil_Duffy, Feb 27, 2006.
I believe that the Warner chat transcript answers yes on your EWS question; good news!
Finally bought THE SHINING about one day before the chat with Warner. UGH. I'll probably double dip depending on the content of the Special Edition release.
I'm holding on to the 2001 remaster of The Shining in 4:3. I just love the way it looks in a square-ish frame. And yet...I also cannot wait to see it in hi-def, in its new 1.78:1 framing, hopefully soon. The new DVD SE and future HD-DVD better retain Vivan's great documentary and audio commentary (she sounds like someone I'd like to hang with!), along with the remastering of Wendy Carlos' music during the docu's closing moments.
P.S. fans of The Shining (and Clockwork Orange) would probably want to check these discs out...
Rediscovering Lost Scores, Vol. 1;
Rediscovering Lost Scores, Vol. 2.
...they contain the bulk of Carlos' unused score for The Shining, and one can hear all the bits and pieces that were used in the final soundtrack, as designed and edited by the great Gordon Stainforth.
for those with hdtv's and skin err cinemax, full metal jacket airs this sat at 8pm et.
Are there any new developments regarding these sets? September 5 is fast approaching. Have they been delayed?
On a side note, the Bay Theatre in Seal Beach, CA, is showing 2001 this week (yesterday, tonight, and Wednesday, I believe). It's probably a 35mm print, rather than 70mm, but still, it's 2001 on the big screen. Here's the Bay Theatre's website if anyone's interested: http://www.baytheatre.com.
DavidDVD says a few Kubrick SEs may hit the UK on November 6th. I suspect we'll be getting something around that time...
Jack, I suspect you know this already, but there is an uncensored, official WB release of "EWS" from Hong Kong (or Korea?). At any rate, it's R3-coded, NTSC, Academy ratio, and with all the digital "blockers" removed.
But I bet the music is still censored; I don't think Warner has released the original theatrical version of that anywhere in the world.
If I'm not mistaken, there was also a reflection of a cameraperson in a bathroom mirror that was removed for home video. I guess a lot of people want (or should want) to see that reinstated.
EDIT: Sorry, just glanced at IMDB. According to them, it was a boom operator reflected in a shower stall post that was removed.
It's funny you mention that as I nearly addressed it in my last post. Dvdcompare.net has the following to say about the R3 release I referred to above (it is Korean, not HK): "UNCONFIRMED: This release is rumoured to contain the reciting of the Bhagavad Gita during the orgy sequence, and is supposed to be Kubrick's ultimate cut of the film."
I didn't realize that when I first purchased/watched it, and cannot here confirm. Since buying the R3, I've sold off my Kubrick Collection with the US R1 "EWS" release, and so can't do a direct A:B. If anyone can tell me what to listen for, I'd be glad to check it out to confirm this rumor or put it to rest.
I don't think he ever said "Stanley hated 1.85." I am positive he did say he "liked height".
BTW, I just saw "The Shining" on HD Net Movies last Saturday, and it looked great via my 720p projector. Future Kubrick HD airings are:
11:30 AM ET - Wed, Aug 16th
8:00 PM ET - Mon, Aug 21st
12:30 AM ET - Tue, Aug 22nd
9:45 AM ET - Tue, Aug 22nd
8:15 AM ET - Sat, Aug 26th
5:30 PM ET - Thu, Aug 31st
7:20 AM ET - Thu, Sep 14th
A Clockwork Orange
4:05 AM ET - Sat, Aug 19th
10:00 PM ET - Thu, Aug 24th
2:20 AM ET - Fri, Aug 25th
4:00 AM ET - Mon, Sep 4th
IMDB says this:
The Region 3 release (Hong Kong) is uncut, but does NOT contains the passages from the Bhagavad Gita recited during the orgy scene. The verses, "paritranaya sadhunam, vinasaya ca duskritam, dharma-samstapanarthaya, sambhavami yuge yuge", are heard on the soundtrack (track 9), but not any DVD or video releases.
I guess that tells you what to listen for, if you want to confirm for yourself.
I can probably pick out those words (Hindi has those nice, big round vowels), but I wonder if anyone can help out on the music? Has the Bhagavad Ghita here been set to Western music, either a 12-tone scale or the (5?) tone scale typically used for Gregorian chant music (sorta like the chant parts in the soundtrack that appeared on the theatrical release)? Or does it sound more like micro-tonal Indian music?
DavisDVD announced that Spartacus is coming to HD-DVD in October, but it seems to be trailer-only.
Too bad. That's really all I was excited about....
Did Kubrick want to shoot 2001 with 1.85:1 in mind?
Is there going to be a new boxset? Surely there must have plans for one?
No. He would not have used 65mm film if he did.
I didnt even know there was a WB chat. Is there a transcript available,I didnt see anything.
Originally, Stanley Kubrick had planned to shoot 2001 in the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. After consultant 'Robert Gaffney' convinced the director that Super Panavision (aspect ratio 2.2:1) was a more visceral experience, Kubrick agreed and got MGM to pay for the photographic process. Since shooting a 70mm space film with monaural sound was frowned upon, Kubrick decided to mix the soundtrack in stereo sound.
MGM were looking for another project for release in Cinerama after the sucess of How the west was won, so there is no way they would have backed 2001 in 35mm mono at an aspect ratio of 1.85 :1.
When they originally annouced Napoleon it was also to be shot in 70mm.Later when Kubrick was trying to salvage that project in the 1970's, he wanted to film it in "full frame"35mm so it would blow up better to 70mm .