Well we had an Ultimate Electronics open this weekend, and I thought I would drop in to check things out. Went to the high end room, and what did I see (they do not even advertise that they sell the speakers), but Krell Showcase - amp and processor Kef 205's up front 204c for the center (as wide as the 46" Mits widescreen) 201 for the rears. The movie was LOTR. No one was in the room so I threw in some SACDs after watching the movie for awhile. I have never heard anything so life like, and engrossing in all of my life (that includes hearing some B&W 805s on some Levinson gear). It really was amazing. The imaging, detail, etc. was all there. No all I have to do is find about $20K, and I can take it home.