For anyone who might be interested JVC just posted the RX-8040 on their website. Upgrades over the old RX-8030 include 2nd Room Audio, RF Remote w/ Glow Buttons & DPL IIx. List price is 5 Cents Less than last years RX-8030 I was surprised to see it had DPL IIx on it seeing their new top of the line model doesn't have it? This will probably be the lowest priced receiver with 2nd Room Audio & an RF Remote Control & All Channel Pre-Outputs. It's too bad though that JVC din't put back the On-Scereen Menus & the new RF Remote isn't anywhere as nice as the old RF Remote they were using on the old RX-9010 it looks just like the remote on the RX-8030.