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I am working on designing the best setup for a 900 square foot "Man cave", if you will.
This build/setup has several uses, one of which isn't as common as most other typical setups.
1) This room is used for viewing movies and to play console games on the Pioneer KURO television.
2) Also we have jam sessions and band practice in this room. At all times there is a full drum kit (set), and several other instruments.
Currently , as was mentioned, the room is 900 squarefeet, has 9 ft ceilings (approx), is insulated.
The room has a 60+inch Pioneer KURO mounted on the far wall.
Attached to this television is a playstation 3, an LG Bluray player (which has some internet capabilities.. ie: Netflix, basix youtube, etc.),.. and Direct TV.
I have WIFI that extends into this room. The home is limited to 6-8Mbps DSL.
The goal is to get a set of speakers that will first be loud enough and sound excellent to be able to play a normal drumkit and the drums not overpower what the speakers are delivering.
(Other instruments will be played along with this at times,.. but the drums are generally the loudest common denominator.)
The intention is to have an easy access computer next to the drummer, to his left (as that is where a counter/bar) is located to position the computer for the easiest access.
On this Computer we intend to mainly access a universal service of songs. (I am unsure of the best service or method for this) -- Spotify? Opinions?
The idea is to be able to easily pull up songs, on the fly, even during play.
So I was thinking of going with an all-in-one PC with about a 24inch display, TOUCH screen,.. to easily navigate these things.
My idea is to purchase the Touch screen all in one -- ,.. run an HDMI out to a receiver, and of course the components, to the receiver and receiver to speakers and television.
Is there a better way?
The keys here are ease of access -- cost is of some factor but ease of use is worth the investment.
In the main living room (separate from this room) -- I have anther pioneer KURO identical to this one (I really like this specific TV line) -- and I setup a Klipsch 5.1 surround system with a 12inch Klipsch powered sub. Went with a Pioneer amp of the same line as the Television just for quality and any potential compatibility it may have had. (Any other amp would have worked fine, just relaying what I did).
I am highly satisfied with the result from the living room setup.
In this room I am trying to piece together the design on -- The complete "surround sound" is *NOT* necessary. I have no real desire to mount rear speakers,.. as it isn't utilized in the same capacity for general television and movies as the main living room.
That said, the idea is to put speakers in that will enhance the movie capability already (which anything will beat the standard speakers on the sides of the Pioneer TV in the room) -- and moreso be of quality and volume to play drumkit/set, guitars, bass, etc along with with volume to spare.
I was thinking that a 2.1 setup,.. two front speakers positioned on wall of the Television (and component stack) with a 10" sub would work well for this purpose if they are of the right brand/quality, and I suppose wattage (power).
I am attempting to make this done 'right',.. but not overly complex on trying to fish wires through walls and so on. With a 2.1,.. the wires could be run under the baseboards to the speakers from 5-10 ft apart (depending on placement) .
So let me lay out some questions:
1) What speaker types, sizes, brand would you recommend? (Links would be great) -- as well as general specifications to go by (wattage? Size? )
2) Position of speakers -- Say two towers are placed on this wall with the television and sub in the corner -- is this "good enough" ? Or do I need to go to the extra mile of running wires through walls and then mounting large speakers say in the two corners near the ceiling?
Remember, perfection of a movie sound isn't desired.. just a healthy balance here with sufficient volume/power.
3) What do you think about the 24" all in one PC ran to a receiver for the input device to access song services like Spotify, Itunes, (and any others that may serve an easier purpose.) ?
4) Is there something I'm missing -- ie: Some software for the computer to utilize the navigation of the touchscreen for this Internet driven music search so that accessing via a touchscreen of 24" is the easiest?
(With the touchscreen there is going to be a wireless keyboard and mouse but the more the screen can be used to easily find and access songs the better the project will work. (Though the caveat here is to access any song out there.. not just stored songs on a hard drive.)
5) The PC can be used, secondarily for other functions of course -- To stream movies (which would be a redundant backup to the LG blu-ray internet player.. but may work better in some instances) -- Otherwise any other use will be like a standard computer and has little bearing on this project.
6) Headphones. If any of you are drummers this will make sense -- but otherwise, the option of using headphones to play with on the drumkit is essential. I mention this simple concept because it seems I am getting conflicting reports of being able to run an HDMI out from a computer and ALSO, concurrently have headphones operating from said computer.
What do you guys know about having two sources of audio output (one to headphone and other to receiver) in such a setup?
I've thought that perhaps certain receivers would be better than others if they had any features that allowed for the addition of the headphones that did NOT mute the speaker output.
IE: Plugging in headphones to the headphone jack of a receiver and the speakers by default are muted and only headphones operate.
Thus I thought at worst case I could run a line from the headphone input back to the area of the Drumkit and Touchscreen PC so I wouldn't have to run two audio outputs from the Computer itself. (I've read windows 7 does not allow two audio sources simultaneously).
7) Again on headphones. How would you set it up? And would wireless headphones be a benefit? Easier? Do they become a hassle with batterylife, quality?
Here is a very rough sketch of the current room layout, that may help visualize what I am referring to:
Thanks for any help, opinions, and advice you guys may have/give.
Jared
This build/setup has several uses, one of which isn't as common as most other typical setups.
1) This room is used for viewing movies and to play console games on the Pioneer KURO television.
2) Also we have jam sessions and band practice in this room. At all times there is a full drum kit (set), and several other instruments.
Currently , as was mentioned, the room is 900 squarefeet, has 9 ft ceilings (approx), is insulated.
The room has a 60+inch Pioneer KURO mounted on the far wall.
Attached to this television is a playstation 3, an LG Bluray player (which has some internet capabilities.. ie: Netflix, basix youtube, etc.),.. and Direct TV.
I have WIFI that extends into this room. The home is limited to 6-8Mbps DSL.
The goal is to get a set of speakers that will first be loud enough and sound excellent to be able to play a normal drumkit and the drums not overpower what the speakers are delivering.
(Other instruments will be played along with this at times,.. but the drums are generally the loudest common denominator.)
The intention is to have an easy access computer next to the drummer, to his left (as that is where a counter/bar) is located to position the computer for the easiest access.
On this Computer we intend to mainly access a universal service of songs. (I am unsure of the best service or method for this) -- Spotify? Opinions?
The idea is to be able to easily pull up songs, on the fly, even during play.
So I was thinking of going with an all-in-one PC with about a 24inch display, TOUCH screen,.. to easily navigate these things.
My idea is to purchase the Touch screen all in one -- ,.. run an HDMI out to a receiver, and of course the components, to the receiver and receiver to speakers and television.
Is there a better way?
The keys here are ease of access -- cost is of some factor but ease of use is worth the investment.
In the main living room (separate from this room) -- I have anther pioneer KURO identical to this one (I really like this specific TV line) -- and I setup a Klipsch 5.1 surround system with a 12inch Klipsch powered sub. Went with a Pioneer amp of the same line as the Television just for quality and any potential compatibility it may have had. (Any other amp would have worked fine, just relaying what I did).
I am highly satisfied with the result from the living room setup.
In this room I am trying to piece together the design on -- The complete "surround sound" is *NOT* necessary. I have no real desire to mount rear speakers,.. as it isn't utilized in the same capacity for general television and movies as the main living room.
That said, the idea is to put speakers in that will enhance the movie capability already (which anything will beat the standard speakers on the sides of the Pioneer TV in the room) -- and moreso be of quality and volume to play drumkit/set, guitars, bass, etc along with with volume to spare.
I was thinking that a 2.1 setup,.. two front speakers positioned on wall of the Television (and component stack) with a 10" sub would work well for this purpose if they are of the right brand/quality, and I suppose wattage (power).
I am attempting to make this done 'right',.. but not overly complex on trying to fish wires through walls and so on. With a 2.1,.. the wires could be run under the baseboards to the speakers from 5-10 ft apart (depending on placement) .
So let me lay out some questions:
1) What speaker types, sizes, brand would you recommend? (Links would be great) -- as well as general specifications to go by (wattage? Size? )
2) Position of speakers -- Say two towers are placed on this wall with the television and sub in the corner -- is this "good enough" ? Or do I need to go to the extra mile of running wires through walls and then mounting large speakers say in the two corners near the ceiling?
Remember, perfection of a movie sound isn't desired.. just a healthy balance here with sufficient volume/power.
3) What do you think about the 24" all in one PC ran to a receiver for the input device to access song services like Spotify, Itunes, (and any others that may serve an easier purpose.) ?
4) Is there something I'm missing -- ie: Some software for the computer to utilize the navigation of the touchscreen for this Internet driven music search so that accessing via a touchscreen of 24" is the easiest?
(With the touchscreen there is going to be a wireless keyboard and mouse but the more the screen can be used to easily find and access songs the better the project will work. (Though the caveat here is to access any song out there.. not just stored songs on a hard drive.)
5) The PC can be used, secondarily for other functions of course -- To stream movies (which would be a redundant backup to the LG blu-ray internet player.. but may work better in some instances) -- Otherwise any other use will be like a standard computer and has little bearing on this project.
6) Headphones. If any of you are drummers this will make sense -- but otherwise, the option of using headphones to play with on the drumkit is essential. I mention this simple concept because it seems I am getting conflicting reports of being able to run an HDMI out from a computer and ALSO, concurrently have headphones operating from said computer.
What do you guys know about having two sources of audio output (one to headphone and other to receiver) in such a setup?
I've thought that perhaps certain receivers would be better than others if they had any features that allowed for the addition of the headphones that did NOT mute the speaker output.
IE: Plugging in headphones to the headphone jack of a receiver and the speakers by default are muted and only headphones operate.
Thus I thought at worst case I could run a line from the headphone input back to the area of the Drumkit and Touchscreen PC so I wouldn't have to run two audio outputs from the Computer itself. (I've read windows 7 does not allow two audio sources simultaneously).
7) Again on headphones. How would you set it up? And would wireless headphones be a benefit? Easier? Do they become a hassle with batterylife, quality?
Here is a very rough sketch of the current room layout, that may help visualize what I am referring to:
Thanks for any help, opinions, and advice you guys may have/give.
Jared
