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I will be building a home theatre room in the basement of a new house that is under construction. The room size is 11 X 22 X 8. My current system will be used initially, but plan on wiring for a future upgrade. I am not sure what the exact configuration will be, so I am wiring to support up to 9.4.6. The room will be used for movies 100% and will be light controlled.

Current system is a 65 inch TV with a 7.1 system

AVR: Denon X2300W
All speakers and sub are 19 years old.
Center JBL center not sure of the model.
Front Left and Right JBL S312 II.
The 4 surrounds are JBL N24 II.
Sub SVS.

My first upgrade will be to a 4k projector like the JVC DLA-NX5 or an ultra-short throw. I am thinking of wiring all speaker locations to both the front and back of the room so my AVR and input devices will be close to my display device. I will also run long HDMI from front to back just to have options.

After I have the projector added I will upgrade my AVR and speakers. I would like to upgrade to an 11.2 Denon AVR-X6700H or 13.2 AVR-X6700H, so I could have 7.1.4, 7.1.6 or 9.1.4.

I am unsure of what to do about speakers. I plan on using my current sub but am open to upgrading to one or a pair of new SVS subs if needed.

Is it better to use tower speakers as the front right and left vs using the same speaker as your surrounds?

For the atmos height speakers would the SVS prime elevation mounted high on a wall work as well as speakers mounted on the ceiling?

Option 1 use current speakers and get new speakers just for atmos height.

Option 2 Get new surround speakers like the SVS prime satellite or ultra-surround and use the N24 as the height mounted to the celling.

Option 3 All new SVS prime or ultra or similar system.

Thanks for any advice.
 

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Welcome! You left out one important piece of information, budget. That aside, for a room this size my recommendations are below.

I will also run long HDMI from front to back just to have options.
If by long you mean over about 20 ft, make sure you choose an "active" or optical HDMI cable.

After I have the projector added I will upgrade my AVR and speakers. I would like to upgrade to an 11.2 Denon AVR-X6700H or 13.2 AVR-X6700H, so I could have 7.1.4, 7.1.6 or 9.1.4.
You should seriously be considering separates [Pre/Pro and dedicated amps instead of integrated receiver (AVR) ] for a room this size.

I am unsure of what to do about speakers. I plan on using my current sub but am open to upgrading to one or a pair of new SVS subs if needed.
What model SVS do you currently have. If your budget allows, dual subs are generally preferred.
Is it better to use tower speakers as the front right and left vs using the same speaker as your surrounds?
Definitely towers for Fronts. There is a dedicated speaker/Sub recommendations thread here you may want to check out.
For the atmos height speakers would the SVS prime elevation mounted high on a wall work as well as speakers mounted on the ceiling?
Trust me. Don't go down that road. Atmos speaker placement is crucial to realistic 3D imaging. Visit the Dolby Atmos site for more information but basically they need to be directly overhead and properly positioned.
 

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Welcome! You left out one important piece of information, budget. That aside, for a room this size my recommendations are below.


If by long you mean over about 20 ft, make sure you choose an "active" or optical HDMI cable.


You should seriously be considering separates [Pre/Pro and dedicated amps instead of integrated receiver (AVR) ] for a room this size.


What model SVS do you currently have. If your budget allows, dual subs are generally preferred.

Definitely towers for Fronts. There is a dedicated speaker/Sub recommendations thread here you may want to check out.

Trust me. Don't go down that road. Atmos speaker placement is crucial to realistic 3D imaging. Visit the Dolby Atmos site for more information but basically they need to be directly overhead and properly positioned.

Thanks for the advice.

The HDMI cable from front to back would be around 35-40ft, so optical for sure.

I do not know what model of svs sub I have. I could not find my receipt, it was 19 years ago and the speaker does not have that info on it that I could find. I think it was 300 watts with 600 peak but I am not very sure of those numbers. Not even sure if it is the same SVS, I thought I bought it from someone that made them in their garage.


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The house is still under construction so I will have to see what we end up spending on the house first.
Rough budget of what I would like to do.
4k projector $6,000 (This is for sure and the first step)
AVR - 11.2 $2,500 or AVR - 13.2 $4,000
Speakers SVS Prime center, tower front right and left, 4 satellite, 4 atmos $3,000 or SVS Ultra tower and surrounds $5,000
Sub dual SVS PC-4000? $3,400
so looks like $15,000 - $20,000 if I do at all.

I have read a few of the separates articles on this site and thought about it but it would push my cost even higher. But, that is why I am asking, it could be a better use of my budget. I had assumed that my room size was small and an AVR could handle it with no issue.

Thanks again.
 

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Thanks for the advice.

The HDMI cable from front to back would be around 35-40ft, so optical for sure.

I do not know what model of svs sub I have. I could not find my receipt, it was 19 years ago and the speaker does not have that info on it that I could find. I think it was 300 watts with 600 peak but I am not very sure of those numbers. Not even sure if it is the same SVS, I thought I bought it from someone that made them in their garage.


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The house is still under construction so I will have to see what we end up spending on the house first.
Rough budget of what I would like to do.
4k projector $6,000 (This is for sure and the first step)
AVR - 11.2 $2,500 or AVR - 13.2 $4,000
Speakers SVS Prime center, tower front right and left, 4 satellite, 4 atmos $3,000 or SVS Ultra tower and surrounds $5,000
Sub dual SVS PC-4000? $3,400
so looks like $15,000 - $20,000 if I do at all.

I have read a few of the separates articles on this site and thought about it but it would push my cost even higher. But, that is why I am asking, it could be a better use of my budget. I had assumed that my room size was small and an AVR could handle it with no issue.

Thanks again.
 

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I found the receipt for the SVS sub, it is a model SV25-31PCI and only 18 years old. The center speaker is a JBL S Center II.
 

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I agree with @John Dirk about seriously considering separates instead of a receiver. I would also venture outside SVS speakers. They're good for certain, but at least look further, and by that I don't mean Klipsch ( :cool:) but some of the many excellent brands available.
 

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I have read a few of the separates articles on this site and thought about it but it would push my cost even higher. But, that is why I am asking, it could be a better use of my budget. I had assumed that my room size was small and an AVR could handle it with no issue.

Believe me, I understand the desire to contain costs all too well but you have a VERY special opportunity her since you are building from the ground up. You're correct in that separates do cost more up front but they will pay dividends in the long run. Since you've read other threads on the subject I'll assume you know what I mean by that but let me know if you do not and I'll explain further.

Your room is almost exactly the same size as mine. You probably could "get away" with an AVR but is that what you're really after here? You could also easily get away with a projector in the 2K range but you've decided to budget 6K. I'm not judging but do you see what I mean? In the end it's your money so there's no wrong answer. I just want you to be truly amazed by whatever you finally end up with.

I just went through a similar experience with new speakers. I decided to go over budget but this will likely be the last set of speakers I ever buy and I just can't wait to get into my Theater Room at the end of each day. For me it was worth exceeding my budget.
 

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I agree with @John Dirk about seriously considering separates instead of a receiver. I would also venture outside SVS speakers. They're good for certain, but at least look further, and by that I don't mean Klipsch ( :cool:) but some of the many excellent brands available.
I will take a look at separates and I may just get some height speakers and see how they sound with my current one.
 

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Believe me, I understand the desire to contain costs all too well but you have a VERY special opportunity her since you are building from the ground up. You're correct in that separates do cost more up front but they will pay dividends in the long run. Since you've read other threads on the subject I'll assume you know what I mean by that but let me know if you do not and I'll explain further.

Your room is almost exactly the same size as mine. You probably could "get away" with an AVR but is that what you're really after here? You could also easily get away with a projector in the 2K range but you've decided to budget 6K. I'm not judging but do you see what I mean? In the end it's your money so there's no wrong answer. I just want you to be truly amazed by whatever you finally end up with.

I just went through a similar experience with new speakers. I decided to go over budget but this will likely be the last set of speakers I ever buy and I just can't wait to get into my Theater Room at the end of each day. For me it was worth exceeding my budget.
I will check out separates and just getting 4 speakers for the height will give me more room in the budget. If I need or want I can upgrade the rest of the speakers at a later time.
 

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Getting ready to wire my theatre room and I have 14/2 speaker wire, Cat6 and RG6 quad shield coaxial. Which would be best for the Subs? I saw in the Building A Home Theater? Start Here thread that you could use twisted pair or coaxial. Since I have both cable types which would be best?
 

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Getting ready to wire my theatre room and I have 14/2 speaker wire, Cat6 and RG6 quad shield coaxial. Which would be best for the Subs? I saw in the Building A Home Theater? Start Here thread that you could use twisted pair or coaxial. Since I have both cable types which would be best?
Not twisted pair. I think the simplest and best solution is RG6 and then put RCA adapters on the ends.
 

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