New Carol Burnett Show DVD On The Way (1 Viewer)

[MartinP.]

It's all so complicated! Are they just trying to confuse everyone so you'll keep buying the same things over and over.
That's not right.

 

[AndyMcKinney]

I hope someone publishes a comprehensive guide to what's what with all these sets (and maintains the list for future updates), so that other people out there can accumulate all the episodes with the least amount of duplication possible.

The information is all probably on this forum between this thread and the other one, but it makes my brain hurt to even think of trying to go back through each and every post.

Maybe an update-able "sticky" that Brian (or some other expert on the subject) could edit post #1 of periodically to keep it current and easily accessible?

 

[Brian Himes]

Ok, I've finished watching the 22 never released shows. Well, the news is not good. All but two of the episodes have been edited. Here is the list with the running times for those episodes. The shows that were on the Best of Tim Conway disc are in bold. Also, remember that I use a different numbering system than what Time Life uses. Show numbers begin with the one or two digit season number and then the two digit episode number. This list is in chronological order by air date. This is how they are ordered within the set as well. The final show is a separate disc and it is, logically, listed last.

Show #125, March 4, 1968 (edited): 42:40
Show #130, May 13, 1968 (edited): 43:11
Show #205, October 14, 1968 (edited): 38:52
Show #209, November 18, 1968 (edited): 38:36
Show #305, September 29, 1969 (edited): 42:15
Show #312, December 8, 1969 (edited): 36:58
Show #409, October 19, 1970 (edited): 45:37
Show #420, February 1, 1971 (edited): 37:50
Show #423, March 1, 1971 (edited): 39:10
Show #511, November 17, 1971: 50:45
Show #513, December 1, 1971 (edited): 30:35
Show #618, February 3, 1973 (edited): 47:20
Show #811, December 7, 1974 (edited): 36:34
Show #906, September 13, 1975 (edited): 38:25
Show #913, December 20, 1975 (edited): 36:42
Show #1013, December 25, 1976 (edited): 47:55
Show #1015, February 5, 1977 (edited): 31:40
Show #1023, March 19, 1977 (edited): 45:45
Show #1109, November 19, 1977 (edited): 41:45
Show #1112, December 11, 1977 (edited): 36:53
Show #1120, February 26, 1978 (edited): 42:25
Show #1124, March 29, 1978: 1:38:32

 

[Bob_S.]

You mean to tell me that show #513 had 20 minutes carved out of it?!?! Wow! I'm guessing all musical numbers?

 

[texboil]

No, all those listed above are unreleased, save the four episodes that were on The Tim Conway release. My understanding is that the "cheaper" (yeah, right) version of this new set includes 33 episodes, 22 unreleased and 11 previously released.

Unless I'm missing something, there has been no bold claim that the episodes in this new package are unedited.

While I would without a doubt prefer unedited episodes, when a release like this cherry-picks episodes (as opposed to being a supposed complete representation of an entire series), I actually have less of an issue/problem. (This latest Carol Burnett release reminds me of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour releases from Time Life or some of the earlier Johnny Carson releases.) We know we're not getting the full series anyway.

But if an eight-season complete box set of a sitcom has even one "syndication cut" episode, that drives me mad.

 

[Brian Himes]

And all that money for just four unreleased episodes in this latest venture? I'll pass then.

Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse anyone.

The four episodes in bold are on the single disc release of The Best of Tim Conway.

The 11 disc set that Time Life is offering has 22 previously unreleased episodes, including the 4 from the Tim Conway disc. There are a total of 33 episodes on this new set. 11 have been previously released. If you get the 60 episode set. The second set in the larger set has an additional 27 episodes. All 27 of those episodes have been previously released.

 

[Brian Himes]

You mean to tell me that show #513 had 20 minutes carved out of it?!?! Wow! I'm guessing all musical numbers?

Yep. Every scrap of music is gone from that episode. Every single bit.

The way these episodes were edited is kind of strange. Most of the time Carol's duet with the guest star is gone. Some times the guest stars solo number is gone. Almost all of the musical finales are gone. There is even one episode, November 18, 1968, that had a sketch edited out. Not for music but probably for PC reasons. Carol and Sid Caesar portray a Japanese film stars being interviewed by Harvey during the VIP sketch. The March 4, 1968 episode edited out another sketch. This one has Carol and Imogene Coca as female astronauts. Not sure why that got edited.

While I do not like the edited versions of these episodes, I would take the remaining 120 unreleased episodes in edited form just to get the rest of the series. Sadly, with the release of the final show I'm guessing that this is the very last set that we will be seeing for this series. I'm so glad that I taped Carol Burnett & Friends episodes to get more stuff from seasons 6-10.

 

[Brian Himes]

I hope someone publishes a comprehensive guide to what's what with all these sets (and maintains the list for future updates), so that other people out there can accumulate all the episodes with the least amount of duplication possible.

The information is all probably on this forum between this thread and the other one, but it makes my brain hurt to even think of trying to go back through each and every post.

Maybe an update-able "sticky" that Brian (or some other expert on the subject) could edit post #1 of periodically to keep it current and easily accessible?

I have a document like that, but sadly it isn't in a form that can be uploaded to this board. I'd be happy to send it to anyone that wants it. Just PM me. In the meantime, here is a list by season of all released episodes. This list does not show which episodes are edited versions nor what set or company (Time Life or Columbia House) released the episode. I do have that information, but again it's in a form that can't be uploaded to this board.


Season 1

September 11, 1967: Show #103
October 2, 1967: Show #106
October 16, 1967: Show #108
November 6, 1967: Show #111
November 27, 1967: Show #113
December 4, 1967: Show #114
December 11, 1967: Show #115
January 8, 1968: Show #118
January 22, 1968: Show #120
January 29, 1968: Show #121
February 12, 1968: Show #122
February 19, 1968: Show #123
March 4, 1968: Show #125
March 18, 1968: Show #116
April 15, 1968: Show #129
May 13, 1968: Show #130

Season 2

October 14, 1968: Show #205
November 4, 1968: Show #208
November 11, 1968: Show #207
November 18, 1968: Show #209
November 25,1968: Show #210
December 16, 1968: Show #213
January 6, 1969: Show #212
April 7, 1969: Show #225

Season 3

September 29, 1969: Show #305
November 3, 1969: Show #302
November 17, 1969: Show #309
November 24, 1969: Show #310
December 8, 1969: Show #312
December 15, 1969: Show #313
January 12, 1970: Show #304
January 19, 1970: Show #316
January 26, 1970: Show #317
February 2, 1970: Show #318
May 4, 1970: Show #326

Season 4

October 12, 1970: Show #404
October 19, 1970: Show #409
November 2, 1970: Show #408
November 23, 1970: Show #413
November 30, 1970: Show #414
December 14, 1970: Show #415
January 25, 1971: Show #419
February 1, 1971: Show #420
February 15, 1971: Show #421
February 22, 1971: Show #422
March 1, 1971: Show #423
March 8, 1971: Show #424
March 29, 1971: Show #426

Season 5

October 6, 1971: Show #506
October 13, 1971: Show #507
October 27, 1971: Show #509
November 3, 1971: Show #510
November 10, 1971: Show #503
November 17, 1971: Show #511
December 1, 1971: Show #513
January 26, 1972: Show #518
February 23, 1972: Show #521
March 1, 1972: Show #522
March 29, 1972: Show #524

Season 6

September 27, 1972: Show #605
October 25, 1972: Show #611
November 1, 1972: Show #610
November 8, 1972: Show #612
November 29, 1972: Show #603
December 16, 1972; Show #604
January 6, 1973: Show #615
January 20, 1973: Show #616
January 27, 1973: Show #617
February 3, 1973: Show #618
February 10, 1973: Show #619
March 24, 1973: Show #624

Season 7

September 22, 1973: Show #701
September 29, 1973: Show #705
October 6, 1973: Show #702
October 13, 1973: Show #706
October 20, 1973: Show #707
November 3, 1973: Show #709
November 10, 1973: Show #704
December 1, 1973: Show #711
December 8, 1973: Show #710
December 15, 1973: Show #712
January 5, 1974: Show #714
January 19, 1974: Show #716
February 2, 1974: Show #717
February 9, 1974: Show #718
February 16, 1974: Show #719
February 23, 1974: Show #720
March 16, 1974: Show #722
March 23, 1974: Show #723

Season 8

September 14, 1974: Show #803
September 28, 1974: Show #804
October 12, 1974: Show #806
November 9, 1974: Show #809
November 23, 1974: Show #810
December 7, 1974: Show #811
December 14, 1974: Show #812
December 21, 1974: Show #813
January 4, 1975: Show #814
January 11, 1975: Show #815
January 25, 1975: Show #816
February 15, 1975: Show #817
February 22, 1975: Show #819
March 15, 1975: Show #821
March 29, 1975: Show #823
April 5, 1975: Show #824

Season 9

September 13, 1975: Show #906
September 20, 1975: Show #901
September 27, 1975: Show #902
October 4, 1975: Show #903
October 11, 1975: Show #907
October 25, 1975: Show #908
November 1, 1975: Show #902
November 15, 1975: Show #909
November 22, 1975: Show #911
November 29, 1975: Show #914
December 6, 1975: Show #912
December 20, 1975: Show #913
January 3, 1976: Show #916
January 10, 1976: Show #917
January 24, 1976: Show #918
February 14, 1976: Show #921
February 21, 1976: Show #922
March 6, 1976: Show #923
March 13, 1976: Show #924

Season 10

September 25, 1976: Show #1004
October 16, 1976: Show #1001
October 30, 1976: Show # 1007
November 6, 1976: Show #1008
November 13, 1976: Show #1002
November 20, 1976: Show #1009
December 4, 1976: Show #1011
December 11, 1976: Show #1012
December 18, 1976: Show #1014
December 25, 1976: Show #1013
January 22, 1977: Show #1017
January 29, 1977: Show #1018
February 5, 1977: Show #1015
February 12, 1977: Show #1020
February 26, 1977: Show #1021
March 5, 1977: Show #1019
March 19, 1977: Show #1023
March 26, 1977: Show #1022

Season 11

October 1, 1977: Show #1103
October 8, 1977: Show #1105
October 22, 1977: Show #1107
October 29, 1977: Show #1106
November 12, 1977: Show #1102
November 19, 1977: Show #1109
December 11, 1977: Show #1112
December 18, 1977: Show #1113
January 8, 1978: Show #1115
February 26, 1978: Show #1120
March 5, 1978: Show #1121
March 12, 1978: Show #1122
March 29 1978: Show #1124

 

[Paintbeanie]

I got the full set and it arrived today. I checked the outtakes and they are the same. It is the exact same disc (just a different label) from the list episodes collection. They did not even bother changing the DVD menu. I did not look at the other DVDs but I suspect I will see the same thing.