New "BEN HUR" Deluxe Collector's Edition

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  1. Jeff Koch

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    A new deluxe collector's edition of BEN HUR (MSRP $79.98 from Creative Design) is scheduled for release on June 11th. Here are some of the details:

    "Collector's Set is packaged in a luxury fitted slipcase and includes 8 Limited Edition Lobby Card Prints; Film Senitype (image from the film and 35mm film frame), One-Sheet Movie Poster; A Collection of Black and White Photo Stills; DVD includes: Audio Commentary by Charlton Heston, Making Of, Trailer, Cast/Director Film Highlights, Filmography, Production Stills, Isolated music track; Newly-discovered screen tests of actors cast and not cast."

    I'm wondering if the video transfer is the same? The isolated score (even though it was included on the laserdisc) is definitely worth having.

    Jeff
     
  2. Enrique B Chamorro

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    I think this is like the other WB box sets made by
    ?Creative Arts?, just the same DVD out now with a
    soundtrack CD, small booklet, poster, and film frame.

    Same as the others like the Matrix box set.
     
  3. Eric Paddon

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    Even though Ben-Hur is my all time favorite movie I can't see the justification in getting this if one already has the current DVD and the old 35th Anniversary CAV LD set which has the isolated score as well (the old LD also used a different trailer in the supplements than the DVD does).
     
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    Another lost opportunity.
    Perhaps WB will show the correct 2.55:1 version without the mattes for the 50th anniv. in 2004. [​IMG]
    (For those who don't know already, Ben-Hur on DVD is simply a 2.55:1 image which is incorrectly matted to yield a 2.76:1 aspect ratio. The only way to show THAT ratio correctly would be to take away the mattes and use a 70mm print. The DVD used a 35mm 2.55:1 print.)
     
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    For those interested in seeing exactly what parts of
    Ben Hur are missing, and why the 2.76:1 DVD aspect ratio
    in itself is *false* due to unnecessary cropping, visit
    Marty Hart's great Widescreen Museum website below:
    http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/special/carmera65.htm
     
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    Geez, earlier today I was lamenting over Excalibur's incorrect cropping and now I have to see this. What is so hard about getting the aspect ratio right?

    Ric
     
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    The original DVD was a 1 disc flipper. Amazon list this Collector's Edition as a 2 disc set, which presumably is needed to include the isolated score. Definitely worth getting for people like me who don't have the laser disc.
     
  10. Eric Paddon

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    There are reports from the Film Score Monthly message board that the isolated score report is false and the press release (or whatever that is) is in error.
     
  11. Cees Alons

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    This sucker, owning the original booklet from the theatrical release in this country, a VHS version and the previous DVD (but not the LD) will order the new set.
    And keeps his fingers crossed that they will put the ratio right without cropping.

    Cees
     
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    Stupid question: how do they fit that BIG poster in that little box? Is it folded? [​IMG]
     
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    All the posters in these WB limited edition boxes are folded, yeah, poster collectors won't stand for this, but this is strictly for fan [​IMG]
     
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    I don't own Ben Hur yet, but I would still probably just buy the regular disc. I wouldn't honestly listen to a isolated score anyway.
     
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    Anyone got this yet who can confirm whether it does have an isolated music score?
     
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    Douglas:

    Today I checked with Fry's and Virgin and neither have this special edition though they say it's on order.

    If you're considering this release because of the "isolated music track" be forewarned: The stores I mentioned will not allow you to return a dvd just because an advertised feature is not included on a disc, unless the disc is defective (won't play). They said you would have to take that issue up with the company that produced the disc.

    I should also point out that Warner Brothers advertised an isolated score on their release of "The Time Machine" dvd (1960 version) but no isolated score was included. If the isolated score feature is something you desire, I'd hold off until someone can confirm it exists on this release.

    Jeff
     
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    I truly believe there is no isolated score. George Feltenstein, who was responsible for the two CD set of the complete score was quite adamant that there would never be an isolated score on DVD or any DVD release and I think this is just advertisers error. The DVD appears to be the same as the one we can already get and so its just an extra $50 for rather valueless extras when all is said and done (which is why I never bother with these sets).
     
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    Has anyone actually seen this in stores yet?
     

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