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Need advice from you experts! Sunfire Cinema Grand or other $1000ish amp?

Discussion in 'AV Receivers' started by RichardJ, Aug 11, 2003.

  1. RichardJ

    RichardJ Stunt Coordinator

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    Hi everyone -

    I'm a total n00b when it comes to high end audio gear - I'm more of a HTPC/display forum kind of guy, but I'm considering speaker and amp upgrades, so I'm here to beg some advice. I currently have a mid-level Yamaha receiver that I'm ok with, but I have the opportunity to buy a Sunfire Cinema Grand used for around $1100, so the Yammy would be just a pre/pro. I'm tempted, as I want to upgrade to some Rocket speakers, and the extra power would be nice to balance out my new SVS PC+.

    I guess what I need to know is whether this is an ok deal, if the Cinema Grand is a good 5 channel amp (I like that it runs cool, and has plenty of power at 8 and 4 ohm), and basically is you all think I should consider some other product, new or used, in the range of $1000... Marantz? Adcom? Sherwood? Anthem? Outlaw? I'm new to all this!

    Thanks a ton!
    RichardJ
     
  2. Yogi

    Yogi Screenwriter

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    The Sunfire cinema grand is more than capable of driving any speaker in the world to reference levels without a problem, so if you like its sound then go for it. Its a nice price for a powerful amp which might well be your last amp.
     
  3. chung_sotheby

    chung_sotheby Supporting Actor

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    Yeah, the Sunfire is a quality amp, especially at the price that you are stating. I think that in the ~1000-1500 price range, there are so many good amps that the only way to really decide which is the best is to listen to them. Anthem, B&K, Outlaw, Parasound, ATI, Sherwood, Rotel, etc. will all have amps that have comparable specs/features, but some will match better with your room/equipment than others, so the only thing that you should consider is the sound. Also, remember, that a doubling in wattage will only result in a 3 dB increase in SPL, so the difference between a 200 wpc amp and a 100 wpc amp is only about 3 dB more from each speaker. What this comes out to be in-room is unknown, but you should definately try to demo as many amps as possible.
     
  4. RichardJ

    RichardJ Stunt Coordinator

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    Chung_sotheby - good tip on the watts to SPL ratio. The Sunfire is rated at 200 @ 8ohm and 400 @ 4ohm, so I figure it would have no problem driving a 5 speaker set of Rockets, even considering the Bigfoot center.

    Sounds like a deal I might jump on... but it's still a lot of cash.

    Yogi said what might be the magic words, however - "might well be your last amp." Love to hear that kind of recommendation!

    Cheers,
    RichardJ
     
  5. Robert_Lamb

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    I don't know your needs, but you may want to consider that people may be getting rid of 5 channel amps as 7.1 becomes more popular. There are some new 7 channel amps or there are always separates. Even if you don't need to use 7 channels with a 5.1 processor, you may wish to biamp your mains. Something to think about for upgrades later (otherwise you need 2 more channels with a separate amp).
     
  6. RichardJ

    RichardJ Stunt Coordinator

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    I've considered the 7.1 route, but I don't think that it really fits my needs right now. There aren't enough DVDs with 7.1 tracks to make it necessary, and I don't have the room for 7 speakers yet anyway.

    Thanks for the suggestions, though! Keep em coming...
     
  7. SkiingNinja

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    Just an FYI, we used the Sunfire CineGrand III and amp at our recent Texas audio show with a 750/200/300 set up and it was *very* nice. I really like that pre/pro and the amp had no trouble with the 30,000cu' room.

    Hope that helps [​IMG]

    Regards,

    Sean
     

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