This has been a terrible week. First, I ordered a Toshiba 40H80 from Ken Cranes. They delivered it last Friday and, despite the salesman's assurance, it was not new in box (it had dust and scratches!) and was not manufactured after January 2001 (December 2000 was the manufacture date). I refused the set on site, but the delivery men said they had to leave it at my house and couldn't pick it up until Sunday. I said fine. While it was in my possession, I turned the set on and attempted to play some DVDs, just to get an idea of how the picture would look. Well the picture was wonderful, but there was a problem: after the set was on for a few minutes, the picture would go black. The sound continued to come through the speakers, but no picture! I unplugged the set for a while, went back, plugged it in, started it up, and it played for a while and then went black again. Ken Cranes later picked it up, but said they had no new 40H80s in stock and so I cancelled the sale. This puts Ken Cranes (and Toshiba) on my shit list. So I went to Best Buy that day and ordered a 40H80 from them. It arrived today, brand new and in box with a manufacture date of April 2001. So I plug the TV in, press power, and...no picture. The red light on the front panel flashes and the set emits a strange clicking noise. I called Best Buy and they said they'd deliver a new one on Saturday and pick this defective one up. So what is it with the Toshiba 40H80? Everyone raves about the picture (and I can see why, because it's beautiful) but what does it take to get a working sample? I realize that this is a relatively inexpensive TV, but having it work would be nice. In my online investigations, it appears that there are certain problems with the sets that numerous people have had, but if you get a functioning sample, you've got a winner. Hopefully the third time will be a charm. ------------------ "Home is where the theater is!"