Holadem
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Yesterday, Ol' faithful, my Toshiba SD2109 player died after 4 years of flawless service. RIP. T'was an entry level player, even back then (I got it for $120 or so), and it remained through the few upgrades to my system (from an HTB to a Denon 4802/Paradigm/32" setup) because I figured a better player wouldn't make a difference anyway.
Yesterday, I borowed my roomie player from his bedroom (a 2 year old hitachi something, looks very basic as well) and plugged it into the main theater. The picture is clearly different, I may need to recalibrate my TV, and so far, I haven't decided if it was a better picture or no. What I wasn't prepared for was the difference in SOUND QUALITY.
The Hitachi player sounded significanly better than the toshiba player, using FOTR-EE, DTS. I haven't tried anything else, it was late. I was sitting there looking intently at the screen, wondering if the somewhat softer picture, brighter reds on this player was a good or bad thing when I noticed it. Surrounds were more active and dynamic, the bass was deeper, tighter and richer, I heard more details than ever heard before, the whole business was fuller, more 3 dimensional. I saw FOTR-EE in the theater a couple of weeks ago, and it was closer to THAT. Even DIALOGUE was better, more articulate. Yikes.
Now, please note that all decoding is done by my Denon. The connection to the receiver remains a coaxial cable. In theory, the bitstream should remain the same, if all the player does it pass it to the receiver. I have heard about factors that could affect the bitstream, such as the elusive jitter. In all honesty, I never gave them much credence, as I never believe the difference would be noticeable. Better yet, a long time ago, Max Yokell reviewed a highly anticipated higher end player on this forum. In that same thread, Mike Knapp added that they noth noticed that contraly to all the wisdom of the time, this new player produced a better sound on DD/DTS material. And that Max was afraid to voice in public, but he wasn't, knowing what he heard (in typical Knapp fashion I might add). Needless, to say, I took that with a HUGE grain of salt ...
I don't venture in the hardware forums very often anymore so things may have changed since then. I believe the consensus was that all DVD players sound the same. Has it changed? If not, then for the first tiem I find myself onthe opposite side of the fence, because I know what I heard.
So what's the word nowadays on DVD player sound quality?
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H
Yesterday, I borowed my roomie player from his bedroom (a 2 year old hitachi something, looks very basic as well) and plugged it into the main theater. The picture is clearly different, I may need to recalibrate my TV, and so far, I haven't decided if it was a better picture or no. What I wasn't prepared for was the difference in SOUND QUALITY.
The Hitachi player sounded significanly better than the toshiba player, using FOTR-EE, DTS. I haven't tried anything else, it was late. I was sitting there looking intently at the screen, wondering if the somewhat softer picture, brighter reds on this player was a good or bad thing when I noticed it. Surrounds were more active and dynamic, the bass was deeper, tighter and richer, I heard more details than ever heard before, the whole business was fuller, more 3 dimensional. I saw FOTR-EE in the theater a couple of weeks ago, and it was closer to THAT. Even DIALOGUE was better, more articulate. Yikes.
Now, please note that all decoding is done by my Denon. The connection to the receiver remains a coaxial cable. In theory, the bitstream should remain the same, if all the player does it pass it to the receiver. I have heard about factors that could affect the bitstream, such as the elusive jitter. In all honesty, I never gave them much credence, as I never believe the difference would be noticeable. Better yet, a long time ago, Max Yokell reviewed a highly anticipated higher end player on this forum. In that same thread, Mike Knapp added that they noth noticed that contraly to all the wisdom of the time, this new player produced a better sound on DD/DTS material. And that Max was afraid to voice in public, but he wasn't, knowing what he heard (in typical Knapp fashion I might add). Needless, to say, I took that with a HUGE grain of salt ...
I don't venture in the hardware forums very often anymore so things may have changed since then. I believe the consensus was that all DVD players sound the same. Has it changed? If not, then for the first tiem I find myself onthe opposite side of the fence, because I know what I heard.
So what's the word nowadays on DVD player sound quality?
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H