My God..... ALIEN 4 (Resurrection?) BLEW!

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  1. Anthony_H

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    ABC is showing ALIEN 4 tonight... I had forgotten how bad it was. That laughable ending with the "baby" alien... the special effects were bad too. Unless they can do a major rethinking.... I hope those rumors about a fifth are false.....
     
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    I thought it was ok. :p)
     
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    Before you blame Most Perfect, Joss Whedon has publicly stated that this is not the film he wrote, and pretty much disowned it
     
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    Yeah, it sucked.
     
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    Yeah, it's going downhill after Aliens.
     
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    It's a shame, really, because the first 20 minutes or so were promising.

    M.
     
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    Personally, I loved Alien Resurrection - it's probably my favourite in the series. Each of the Alien films has a totally different style (in one of the cleverest ideas Hollywood has ever had), and it's not surprising that people will love one and hate another.
    Resurrection needs, more than the others, to be seen on the big screen. IMHO it is a subtle film in the guise of an unsubtle film; or maybe it's a European movie disguised as a Hollywood blockbuster. Jeunet did brilliantly.
    And what a fantastic supporting cast! Brad Dourif, Ron Perlman, Michael Wincott, Dan Hedaya, Dominique Pinon - and of course the lovely Winona Ryder. [​IMG]
     
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    I wouldn't go that far, but I do agree that the film is rather unfairly maligned. Personally, I rather like Chris Cunningham's new Alien designs, and look forward to what he'll do when he eventually directs Neuromancer. Jeunet turned in his weakest film in my opinion, but thats only saying that its not as good as Delicatessen, so is hardly a big criticism. Overall, I think its weaknesses lie in trying to be too many things at once; both the intelligent, beatiful film that Lord Joss and Jeunet can normally be entrusted to deliver, and the big explosion action movie that the producers clearly wanted.
     
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    Suckfest

    ...nope, nothing else to say.
     
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    Well it was way better than Alien³.[​IMG]
    And I could tell it was a Whedon script - some of those flashy lines - it has the spark that was totally missing from Alien³.
    I think it comes down to how much you hate Aliens. Resurrection brings it back to the Aliens feel.
    The ending is total pants, however, and both 3 and 4 shouldn't have been made.
    Jeff, do you have a link to the original script that Whedon wrote?
     
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    I also much prefer Alien3 over Alien: Rez, the ending to Rez is just so laughably bad... And I think the whole cloning idea sucks... Ripley died in Alien 3, period.
     
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    I enjoy Alien3 on it's own. It's a well-made movie. Alien:Res had one good scene - Ripley's clone walking into the room of failed clones. The set design was nice as well. But the script wasn't very good. The Joss Whedon lines, which are obvious and can mostly be picked out...mostly, smack of "look how cool this line is." I don't find him brilliant myself, and Alien:Res is certainly one of his weakest efforts. I unfortunately watched the last 40 minutes of Judge Dredd on cable. It makes Alien:Res look like Gone with the Wind.

    Take care,

    Chuck
     
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    Theo,
    My view of Judge Dredd was a great British strip turned into a Vanity picture for Stallone. By making him a clone, they tried to explain his emotionless acting IN THE DAMN SCRIPT! Beyond that, it wasn't nearly as painful as most horrible movies I have seen, but you could almost see the studio suits and summer movie marketers on the edges of the screen - making up corny dialogue for Rob Schneider as the movie went along. Diane Lane looked quite nice though[​IMG]
    Take care,
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    Well, count me in as another person who enjoyed "Judge Dredd". I've read a whole bunch of the comics, and yes, the movie wasn't true to them in some respects, but it was still an above average action flick.

    As for "Alien: Resurrection", it was decent, but a let-down after the IMO very good "Alien 3". The ending didn't bother me, but there was a lack of originality and most of all a lack of a good script that made it the worst entry in the series. I'm still looking forward to a 5th one though!

    /Mike
     
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