This is crazy. I am reliving the days back when 2x CD burners could be had for less than $400 and I was super happy back then. Yesterday I snagged the Pioneer Dual 8x burner. Have chugged out some data DVD's of random video's, mp3's patches and the sort just to try it out. The mind bogggles that a laser is throwing a couple megabytes per SECOND at the disc. Literally melting parts of the disc at such speeds, and being able to incorporate error correction and all that extra stuff. I chugged out a nearly full DVD-R disc in about 15 minutes. That is a hell of a lot of data. Sorry to rave on and on, but it is new hardware for me and I haven't been this giddy with new hardware in quite some time!