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My 2 cents worth on "Brothers Grimm"

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by William Moore, Jul 28, 2018.

  1. john a hunter

    john a hunter Screenwriter

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    D150 didn't last long and its lenses were sold off to cinemas that wanted them.
    London's D150 cinema,the Odeon at Marble Arch, bought theirs and used them for several re-releases including The Professionals, Lion in Winter and of course Star Wars.
    I think in the States, the U.A Theater chain adopted the process and used the lenses for projection.
    I did see Empire Strikes Back at the Egyptian in L.A using the process.
    It was a nice surprise as it was not advertised as such.
     
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    OliverK

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    In case anybody is wondering about the D150 lenses, this is it:
    https://www.in70mm.com/newsletter/2004/68/super_curvulon/index.htm
    Dick Vetter who wrote the article is the man who invented the lens and it is great that he tells the story of the lens and how it could be employed.

    These are on ebay quite regularly and I bought one some years ago for a friend. It is a high quality lens and of better quality than the old UP70 attachments that were used for projecting Ben-Hur and Bounty.
     
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    Perhaps Cinemiracle you also saw Dr Zhivago and Lawrence when shown at the Rivoli in the early 70s for theatrical re-release? Though Lawrence was so poorly cut to get in more showings the NY Times did a Sunday essay in the Arts and Leisure section on what a travesty it was.
     
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    As I previously mentioned ,I only saw THE SAND PEBBLES and SERGEANT PEPPERS LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND at the Rivoli (both in 70mm). We also screened SAND PEBBLES where I worked, on our 60 ft wide curved TODD-AO screen..I saw the full Roadshow version of THE SAND PEBBLES where I worked when it was being classified by the film censor.(in New Zealand). After that screening 20th Century Fox ordered all 70mm prints to be shortened by 16 minutes before it was screened to the public. I also saw the full version at the Rivoli in NYC . I maybe wrong but perhaps only the USA ever saw the full 196 minute version in 70mm. Sadly this masterpiece was only released on bluray in the shortened version but the dvd was the full 196 version. As regards DR ZHIVAGO ,we also screened tilm in 70mm. I saw LAWRENCE OF ARABIA many times in 70mm at another local cinema on a 62 ft wide screen (biggest screen in Australasia for screening 70mm film at the time) LOA was 20 minutes shorter in Australia and New Zealand than the version shown in London..However we did have a 35mm prologue that was screened with the film. Many countries never got to see the prologue.
     
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    RolandL

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    A number of D-150 theatres promoted various films in that process in their ads.

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  6. Charles Smith

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    I saw that Egyptian D-150 presentation of ‘2001’. 1972-73 or thereabouts.
     
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    Thread drift?
     
  8. Robert Crawford

    Robert Crawford Moderator
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    This thread has drifted so much for so long, I wonder if it's title should be changed?
     
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    OliverK

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    There is only so much that one can speculate about Grimm, would be nice to interview somebody from Warner what their long term plans are for preventing it from rotting away completely. I do not think however that Warner would like to openly talk about a movie that apparently they have no plans to release anytime soon.

    Let's see when it gets projected next time in either Bradford or L.A. - might be that some traveling is in order to finally see it.

    That being said please keep the thread title as is - we need some exposure for one out of only two cinerama feature films that should not be forgotten.
     
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    Did THE BIBLE credit D-150 in the prints?
     
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    I seen some original 70mm prints of The Bible and they have a D-150 credit at the end.

    The 70mm DTS print made a few years ago does not have the D-150 credit at the end.

    Of course Patton had the D-150 credit in the front titles.
     
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    A knowledgeable friend pointed me to this weekend's CineSavant column, which said that THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF THE BROTHERS GRIMM may be in the process of being digital remastered. Does anyone here have any more information on this?

    https://cinesavant.com/cinesavant-column-200/
     
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    Probably best to ask CineSavant where his belief stems from, this is the first time I read about it.
     
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    Yes, it should. With inflation, it should be retitled "My 6 cents worth on "Brothers Grimm".
     
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    How I wish it could be true. I have the TCM broadcast on permanent display on my DVR since it's a chore to drag out the laserdisc, but it really looks horrible: all dim and brown and dirty.
     
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    No word from Dave Strohmaier, (so far), so I'd take it with a pinch of salt for the time being.

    I doubt if a restoration could be attempted without significant input from him.
     
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    Warner Bros and whoever else might be, and have perhaps long been, working on this in utter secrecy, and with any (unlikely) good fortune, will suddenly spring a Blu-ray announcement upon us, Smilebox format and all. I'd love to see this happen before I pass on (The years, they go...).
     
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    Would love to hear a confirmation from im but if it is too good to be true...
     
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    It would not surprise me if the remastering referred too is merely WB scanning the remaining elements for archival purposes.

    Warner Archive has said many times x or y release has only been possible because the studio has a long term archival procedure and such and such a title has just been mastered from the best available materials, it’s then separately cleaned-up/colour corrected - the new Tex Avery is the latest example of this.

    WB creates the raw scan, it's then up to other divisions if it's “remastered/cleaned up/DI’d etc”

    This especially makes sense for titles in decay/problematic as they have a 4K+ Digital source to go back to if original elements subsequently become unusable.

    A division may choose to work on remastering, but that’s gonna be a huge chunk of someone’s budget.

    M
     
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    For what the question is worth, how do you know they're not just prepping for a DVD release of this one? I mean, the talk on here for the longest time has been that it would cost too much to restore it for Blu-ray (and, unless I'm wrong, it hasn't made it to DVD yet, either).
     

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