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Multi-channel SACDs and DVD-As

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Mal P, Feb 6, 2002.

  1. Mal P

    Mal P Stunt Coordinator

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    Howdy,

    I was wondering if all Multi-channel SACDs and DVD-As contained a high-fidelity two-channel track (in DSD or MLP), for those who dislike multi-channel audio?

    Thank you,

    Mal
     
  2. RicP

    RicP Screenwriter

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    Mal,

    All SACD's do, they have to. DVD-A is a hit & miss right now. Most do, but there are some that do not -- you have to be sure to check each DVD-A box for the specs. Look for the term "Advanced Resolution Stereo".
     
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  4. Philip Hamm

    Philip Hamm Lead Actor

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    Yes, the Barenaked Ladies "Maroon" DVD-Audio disc is the same way. It says in at least 4 places on the packaging and in the book that it contains an advanced resolution stereo track, but there is none on the disc.[​IMG]
     
  5. RicP

    RicP Screenwriter

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    Well that just sucks. [​IMG]
    Hopefully Warner will standardize on the listings if they actually put any more DVD-As out.
    Or maybe they were referring to the DD track as "Advanced Resolution Stereo" [​IMG]
     
  6. Ryan Spaight

    Ryan Spaight Supporting Actor

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    Warner's logic appears to be that a downmix of the surround mix qualifies as an "Advanced Resolution Stereo" track.

    Though more "advanced" than a DD downmix, it still ain't the same thing as a real dedicated mix.

    Ryan
     
  7. John Kotches

    John Kotches Cinematographer

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    Ryan,

    The majority of titles (I don't have an exact count to say vast majority) issued from Warner included 24/96K or 24/192K dedicated stereo tracks.

    The first round of releases from WB were Surround Only. They learned from that. The second round of releases from WB had dedicated 24/96K Stereo tracks in addition to Surround. The latest round of releases from WB includes 24/192K or 24/96K stereo, depending on space, and the mastering studio.

    If you want to see things done really well, check out the releases from AIX Records. The DVD-Audio side is the 5.1 mix. The DVD-Video side has surround (DD) and stereo (24/96K PCM). This means every DVD player will have access to a high quality stereo track.

    I'd like to see more record labels take this approach.

    Regards,
     
  8. Ryan Spaight

    Ryan Spaight Supporting Actor

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    John,

    Yes, I agree. I was referring to the early Warner releases such as the ELP disc that advertised an "Advanced Resolution Stereo" track when none existed. I agree they've learned and am encouraged by the prolifertation of "real" stereo mixes on the newer discs.

    Ryan
     
  9. John Kotches

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    Ryan,
    When you paint with a broad brush, the details get obscured [​IMG]
    Regards,
     
  10. Philip Hamm

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    John,
    [​IMG]
    I need to use the quote function more often so I stay in context.
    Ryan
     
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    Can someone tell me what dvd-audio discs have a 24/192k high rez stereo track? I have yet to find one. It says it on the cover of some yet my dvd-audio player only lights up 24/96k. Do I have my player set up wrong or is there some false advertisment on the discs themself?
     
  13. John Kotches

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    Jeff,

    The following discs in my collection have 24/192K Stereo Tracks.

    The Eagles Hotel California

    Carly Simon No Secrets

    The Doobie Brothers The Captain and Me

    The Hamamura Quintet Re`Told (Audionet import).

    There are several others, like America "Homecoming" and one of the Grateful Dead titles, but I don't own them.

    Regards,
     
  14. Mal P

    Mal P Stunt Coordinator

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    Thanks for the information gentleman, it looks like I'll have to careful as to which titles I buy once I move into SACD/DVD-A.

    Cheers,

    Mal
     
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  16. John Kotches

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    I hear conflicting info on the G. Dead titles.
    Oh well, live and learn [​IMG]
    Regards,
     

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