More X-Boxes Sold Than GameCubes? Oh Really...

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  1. Morgan Jolley

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    http://www.gamers.com/news/1425557

    "Microsoft has sold just over 9.4 million Xbox consoles worldwide, according to its quarterly financial statement released today. For comparison, Sony has shipped (if not sold) 51.2 million units of PlayStation 2 hardware as of the end of March, while Nintendo is roughly even with Microsoft, having racked up an equal installed base of 9.4 million Gamecube consoles sold as of this May."

    Hmm...an interesting little tidbit, don't you think? I guess the whole thing about who is in first and second place is really not that easy to call.
     
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    Actually Morgan, I think the real "place" would be on units of software sold at that close numbers. What else has gone gangbusters on Cube this year besides Zelda? (seriously asking, not ribbing)
     
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    Total software sales would be interesting too but Morgan's thread is clearly about the pieces of hardware sold.
     
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    Was this in response to another post? Your title seems to be a rebuke to another thread. I did a search but couldn't come up with one. Most seem to be software sales related. Not saying there wasn't such claims made, I just can't seem to find them, could you post a link?

    You're right though this is an interesting article, however I think it's also bad news for the big N. Reason being; Nintendo has had to lower their forecast expectations from 10-12 million units down to 9 million, whereas MS is exceeding their forecast target of 9 million units by almost 1 million. According to this CNET article: http://news.com.com/2100-1043-995783.html?tag=fd_top

    Either way I think they're both doing less than they had hoped.
     
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    Morgan is probably just referring to the general perception that MS has sold more consoles (and it's not first or second place, but second or third place). I would guess that MS sells more software than Nintendo, but with MS losing money on each console sale, actual profits might be in Nintendo's favor.
     
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    Offsetting console losses is probably not as economically desirable as making actual profits on hardware sales. [​IMG]

    Expecting Nintendo to maintain a stranglehold on the gaming world using late 80's/early 90's market percentages is disengenuous.

    There is a public perception that Nintendo is in hard straits. Part of that perception has been that Xbox was crushing GameCube in console sales. Apparently untrue. Does anyone know actual total game sales figures? It's probably impossible to actually compare apples to apples amongst the three consoles (a best-selling game like Zelda and Brute Force likely brings more into the coffers than a third-party title no matter the figures), but hey, what's an internet forum for?
     
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    If you look at profits between Nintendo and Microsoft, I'd say Nintendo is probably making more. Their console is cheaper to manufacture and has sold the same amount as the X-Box, their licensing costs are higher, their first-party games are the ones that are million sellers, and they've still got the amazingly strong handheld sector all to themselves. MS loses a LOT of money on each console sold, has invested huge amounts in X-Box Live (which has over 500,000 users), and is still restructuring their Japanese group because of the horrible sales over there. MS might be selling more software units, but that doesn't mean they're making more money.

    Add to all of that the fact that Nintendo has a ton of money in the bank with absolutely no debt.
     
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    Financial health of the company makes no difference. All 3 are filthy rich. Market share is defined by units of hardware/software sold.
     
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    No,in fact the game being in English would IMPROVE sales

    XBox has very few games that appeal to the Asian audience. It is correct that virtually all of the big titles are pointed directly at the North American market, FPS games for example don't sell very well in Asia, only basketball and baseball sports games do well.

    Where's the dating sims? Where's the Japanese style RPGs? Where's the dance/rhythmn games? (OK, DDR is finally coming, but not till October), where's Bomberman? Where's the other wacky quirky titles the Japanese are famous for?

    To seriously get the Japanese developers to work for you, you need to be successful in their home market. Why are they so important? Because their titles are fairly universal in sales. They do well in all the markets instead of just one.

    Microsoft had, and since they're going to American management obviously STILL has no clue of how to succeed in Asia. They should be hiring people who know and understand the market they're trying for, not to try to shove what they want to sell them down their throats, because that ain't working.
     
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