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Midway (2019)

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Reggie W, May 14, 2019.

  1. Robert Crawford

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    Yeah, we'll see....
     
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    I watched the 76 version yesterday and was disappointed that it wasn’t as good as I remembered. Too much melodrama and bad acting. I liked the authentic footage but it doesn’t hold up well.
     
  3. Robert Crawford

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    Right now, I'm in the middle of a snowstorm, but I will definitely see this new film by Thursday. The 1976 film isn't in Tora, Tora, Tora! class, but, I still enjoy it.
     
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    I've never seen a Emmerich Bruckheimer collaboration before...
     
  5. Tino

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    Because there hasn’t been one.
     
  6. Edwin-S

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    Yeah. That was my mistake. I thought Bruckheimer was the producer on this flick. He isn't. Roland Emmerich is the producer and director.
     
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    I was browsing titles on sale @ iTunes when I came across a movie about Polish fighter pilots at the Battle of Britain called Mission of Honor. I was thinking of splurging $4.99 for a blind buy until I watched the trailer. The CGI did not look good. I spent about 15 years playing WW2 flightsims on my PC with a squad of guys, and that movie's CGI looked like my game graphics. I did not get that feeling with any of Midway's CGI, but I think I figured out why people are so critical of WW2 CGI. I think it is because our mind tells us the movie should be photographed as though real planes are used, even if they aren't. If a movie was shot with real planes, the camera would be limited to shots from the ground or from another plane or some stationary point. In Midway, the planes and battles are shot like Superman is the cameraman, tracking every single move a plane makes, following it from 20,000 feet right down to the Japanese carrier deck. The rendering of the planes, and the damage and the flight models are for the most part very realistic, but the camera work being from the CGI realm seems sort of unreal in a WW2 setting when it would be perfectly normal in a superhero film. The "cameraman" is able to fly through intense damage to get the shot, which seems sort of fake to some people because it could not be done in real life. I guess it is a visual style we will get used to in time.
     
  8. Robert Crawford

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    I still like the 1976 movie better, but, I must admit this 2019 film wasn't as bad as I anticipated it to be. It's a better film than "Pearl Harbor". I'll definitely buy the 4K disc. I really enjoyed the
    John Ford sequences
    . There are things I like about this film, but, then there are some things I disliked.
     
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    Haven't seen the new Midway yet. I really liked the 1976 version but Tora, Tora, Tora was a better movie IMO. I also have a 35mm technicolor/CinemaScope print of I Bombed Pearl Harbor (1960) which depicts the Japanese slant of the Pearl Harbor story. It's on a equal footing with the original Midway and the Tora, Tora, Tora films.
     
  10. Colin Jacobson

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    I used to like/defend Emmerich, but I've pretty much given up on him, and "Midway" reminds me why.

    He now wants to be a "serious filmmaker" but he can't tell a story or develop characters to save his life,

    This isn't a movie - it's a collection of war film cliches cobbled together with bad CG and a bombastic soundtrack.

    The 1976 "Midway" has its issues but it's much more interesting than this mess. It's basically a videogame version of war with the occasional trite stab at melodrama interspersed...
     
  11. Robert Crawford

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    I was surprised by the size of my matinee showing today. There were at least 30 people there which kind of surprise me and I was definitely the youngest person there which made my "old ass" self feel good.:)
     
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    Looks like Cineplex Odeon is not going to play It in my area. They are showing "Charlie's Angels" and "Ford vs Ferrari" opening tomorrow.
     
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    If the percentage of movies I liked was as low as yours, I think I'd have to move on to a different hobby.:)
     
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    Ok......wait for it.......here it comes......I strongly disa......... well ya know. ;)
     
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    Now??

    He has done serious films before.

    The Patriot (2000) Huge hit.
    Anonymous (2011)
    Stonewall. (2015)
     
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    I don’t get this complaint at all.

    I thought the CGI was terrific. Better than Pearl Harbor for instance.
     
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    Curious. In what way is the ‘76 version better @Robert Crawford and @Colin Jacobson

    it seems so dated by today’s standards to me. With all the unnecessary subplots, romance etc.
     
  18. Colin Jacobson

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    :rolleyes:

    I'll spend my time doing what I like, thanks.

    Now we're at the point where I'm deemed a movie hater because I disliked a poorly-reviewed film from a much-derided director?

    Seriously?
     
  19. Colin Jacobson

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    "Now" meant more "last decade" - didn't mean to imply her never shot that way at all in the past.

    "Patriot" was his baby step toward that direction. It was still more action movie than serious drama, but it pushed him away from the pure fantasy of his prior flicks.

    "Midway" is obviously closer to "Patriot" than those other 2.

    "Patriot" was a much better film than "Midway". It's flawed, too, but it actually attempts character development and offers more than the thin dramatic gruel of "Midway".

    As I alluded, I'm no reflexive Emmerich hater. I'm one of the few who liked "Godzilla", and I continue to defend "ID4".

    His films since 2000 haven't done much for me, though, and I think he's better suited for pure popcorn fare than a more dramatic tale like this. He just lacks the storytelling chops...
     
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    It's been 18 years - one would hope the visual effects have improved.

    I just find it more and more difficult to suspend disbelief with a lot of CG. The CG here looks more like an "artist's rendering" of planes/ships than the real thing.

    That's not an issue solely with "Midway" - it happens with a lot of films...
     

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