Microsoft offers new CD copy-protection scheme.

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  1. KeithH

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    I can see a couple of ways to circumvent this copy protection already. Unless they put SCMS in, someone could burn a copy on a home CD recorder, then rip the files onto the PC since that disk wouldn't have the special layer to prevent this. You could also add a digital input to your computer and feed a regular cd players digital out into it, again avoiding the special layer.

    I can also see an enterprising hacker building a new driver to allow you to control which layer your drive accesses.

    It seems to me that this plan would also require new hardware since the current cd drives only read one layer. I can't see a lot of people rushing out to upgrade.

    Don't get me wrong, I think musical piracy is wrong and I don't participate in it. I do believe I have the right to listen to music I paid for any way I want, whether that's on a compilation CD I burned, or ripped to my computer while I surf the net, or on a portable MP3 player while I travel!

    I think it's time for the music industry to give up silly copy protection schemes that violate my fair use rights and drop the price of CDs to a point where no one bothers with piracy.
     
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    Dennis, your last paragraph is right to the point. Bravo! "...That be da' facts jack..."[​IMG]
     
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    Paul said:
     
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    I don't think the industry is worried about 'us', but China and India etc. They are the ones that pirate the most and they have a lot of music loving folks.
     
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    If so, the industry is made of morons. The large-scale pirates in the third world will quickly break this scheme; the only people it'll be effective against are casual copiers.
     
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    Microsoft?
    'Your CD has encountered a general protection fault and must re-start. Press any key'
    Tom
     
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    how does the quote go?

    "those who fail to remember history are doomed to repeat it."

    i wish the music industry would remember the all the hoopla when cassettes came out. they expressed the same worries and concerns back then. iirc, the music industry went up significantly during that timeframe?

    dennis is right on the money. lower costs and everyone will be happy.
     
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    Somehow I don't think anyone is going to be lining up to buy a new CD player whose only extra feature is copy protection.

    Seth
     
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    Digital copy prevention means absolutely nothing.

    People can still copy audio by means of analog or digital captures from an external CD/LD/DVD player. I've had better luck going digital to digital 1:1 in some cases over direct reading from a CD-R/RW/DVD drive.
     
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    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/28938.html
    What a deal! According to this article, one of Microsoft's "key customers" for the Microsoft DRM technology wants to "offer our record label customers the ability to ... collect new revenue from consumers who wish to make additional secure copies of their music."
    Translation: If you want to make a backup CD for the car (to keep the original from getting baked / stolen), or a compilation CD, pull out your credit card, and pay AGAIN.
    It sounds like this has less to do with preventing "piracy" than with sticking a hand into the pockets of customers who want to use their own CDs in lawful ways.
     
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    The "big five" sure are busy figuring out new and innovative plans to run themselves out of business...[​IMG]
     
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    If you build it, someone will break it.

    I never realized how stupid the music industry is. You want to increase revenue? How about a)lowering cd prices and b)taking a chance and releasing something else besides the same ol' pop/r&b/rap/boy bands/etc. Treating your customers as criminals doesn't exactly endear you to them.
     
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