MGM Press Release: BOND 50 (Blu-ray) (1 Viewer)

[bluelaughaminute]

I believe they all the films that should have mono tracks, did have them in this set. Since I don't have a surround sound setup at the moment, when I watch them I generally opt for the mono.

The US discs do have original tracks all included which is IIRC mono up to Golden Gun , stereo from TSWLM then 2 channel surround later .
Because of additional language tracks the initial individual Blurays released in Europe and the UK ( about a dozen or so I think) didn't include the original sound on any of them.
The discs that didn't come out individually but were only available once the boxset came out do have the original tracks too .

However , I must admit that when its done right a full 5/6/7 channel surround experience for 007 is excellent .
If ever a series of films was made for surround its Bond.
Certainly , on a surround setup confining the sound to one channel only weakens the experience for me and much of the sounds go unheard.
It's such a shame they then go and ruin the mixes by adding new sounds . Why? There's no need.
YOLT is awful and while I can stil enjoy OHMSS the changed levels of the music do grate sometimes.
Again - why?
A good remix does not need to add new sounds . It can be as true to the original as close as possible by simply giving the sound that was recorded at the time a wider stage.

 

[Vahan_Nisanain]

I'm kinda skeptical about TSWLM being in stereo originally. None of the original posters say anything about it being in Dolby Stereo. Even the early RCA CED and CBS/Fox versions of that film were in mono.

 

[Worth]

I'm kinda skeptical about TSWLM being in stereo originally. None of the original posters say anything about it being in Dolby Stereo. Even the early RCA CED and CBS/Fox versions of that film were in mono.

I thought the same thing, but apparently it did play in 35mm mag stereo, at least in London. I believe all of the optical soundtracks were mono - that's the only way I've ever seen it on film.

 

[bluelaughaminute]

I thought the same thing, but apparently it did play in 35mm mag stereo, at least in London. I believe all of the optical soundtracks were mono - that's the only way I've ever seen it on film.

I was only guessing that mono ended with TSWLM- I wasn't 100% sure.
But it was the first of the Bond movies I saw at the Odeon Leicester Square although I doubt the stereo sound would have registered with me at the time.
Presumably as it did have stereo sound it was one of the first to be in stereo on VHS which maybe where my memory connected it with stereo sound.

 

[brioni]

We've started to cover some old ground here

I think there were two different levels of Lowry work done on the Bond movies -- I think the first eight or nine films received what was billed as full restoration work, while the others were given cleanups but not full restorations. I don't remember exactly what the termonology used was, nor where the line was drawn -- I think it might have been all of the films through Live And Let Die or Man With The Golden Gun that got the fuller work, and everything after got just a touch up. I remember this being publicized at the time, in other words it wasn't a secret that some films got more attention than others.

there is an interview link in my post here: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/311344-mgm-press-release-bond-50-blu-ray/?p=3868830

I'm kinda skeptical about TSWLM being in stereo originally. None of the original posters say anything about it being in Dolby Stereo. Even the early RCA CED and CBS/Fox versions of that film were in mono.

And this was mentioned as not being the case here: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/311344-mgm-press-release-bond-50-blu-ray/page-68

 

[Vahan_Nisanain]

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[SilverWook]

I'm kinda skeptical about TSWLM being in stereo originally. None of the original posters say anything about it being in Dolby Stereo. Even the early RCA CED and CBS/Fox versions of that film were in mono.

All early CED releases were mono regardless of the film. (The format didn't go stereo until later.) Some titles had the disclaimer "mono sound for Videodisc" in small print on the back.

 

[Vahan_Nisanain]

Turns out the RCA CED version of Diamonds are Forever has the correct United Artists logo.

It looks a little weird, though, because the film was shot in widescreen. Therefore, it is Pan and Scan. But hey, better than nothing!

 

[Stephen_J_H]

Now I have to go home and check the opening and end credits on the BD, because I'm reasonably sure that the early Dolby System- Motion Picture-High Fidelity shows up at some point during the credits.

 

[bluelaughaminute]

The US Bluray should have the original track in addition to the surround sound.
If it was mono then the BD should be mono.

 

[Worth]

Now I have to go home and check the opening and end credits on the BD, because I'm reasonably sure that the early Dolby System- Motion Picture-High Fidelity shows up at some point during the credits.

If you're talking about Spy, you won't find it.





The first "Dolby Stereo" credit appears at the end of Moonraker:

 

[bluelaughaminute]

If you're talking about Spy, you won't find it.





The first "Dolby Stereo" credit appears at the end of Moonraker:

So presumably the non surround soundtrack is mono on the Bluray then ?

 

[Worth]

So presumably the non surround soundtrack is mono on the Bluray then?

Nope, stereo. As was mentioned earlier in this thread:

I would like to confirm The Spy who Loved Me screened in 4-Track Magnetic Stereo at the Odeon Leicester Square on release.I saw it there and remember the tone coming from the gateing amp before the surround coming in. The first Dolby Stereo was Moonraker.

So it would seem Spy had some kind of limited mag stereo release, even though the overwhelming majority would have heard it in mono.

 

[bluelaughaminute]

Nope, stereo. As was mentioned earlier in this thread:


So it would seem Spy had some kind of limited mag stereo release, even though the overwhelming majority would have heard it in mono.

Ah right . I was trying to find out what the original track was so despite no Dolby Stereo logo there was actually a stereo track created at the time which is why the Blu has stereo.
Got to the bottom of it eventually

 

[Osato]

It seems to be Thunderball and OHMSS, most probably YOLT as well- it’s evident on the 2006 DVD. For some reason I’ve had it in my mind that Spy and For Your Eyes Only through to Die Another Day were scanned in at 2K and i’m sure others have mentioned it earlier on in this thread. Re-reading this old Lowry interview, he states 9 were 4K and the rest were hi-def so that could tie in with this theory and why the results are lacklustre on some of Brosnan’s films. I always thought Dr No through to Golden Gun made the 9 up, and Moonraker became a 10th because of the extensive optical effects- it needed doing in 4K. Maybe Moonraker did make up the 9th though, because Golden Gun doesn’t have a 4K restoration credit like the others. However it is one of the better transfers and looks good enough to have been dumbed down from a higher resolution. If the others are all hi-def, that’s even more disappointing, but some of the 80’s ones do look very good and i’m sure i remember reading somewhere that Lowry was instructed to go with 2K once they saw the results. I think it would have been unprecedented for any studio to take a film like GoldenEye- 10 years old at the time and do a expensive, full restoration in 4K. I wouldn’t expect that. Until these films age more, we’ll have to be content. It should look better on blu ray, but considering we’re going from a like-to-like source to destination, the detail and grain might not be there in the first place. I agree, Spy has surely been redone completely in 4K. It’s a revelation and can’t wait to see it. I don’t think my 42” screen will do the detail in those pyramids justice though! I think AVTAK is a shambles though - releasing the film a 2nd time with known issues? Ordinarily this wouldn’t happen but I feel they can get away with sliding it under the carpet as its part of a 22 film box set. If this was your favourite Bond film and the only one you wanted to own individually, u’d be pretty pissed. Ordered my box set from Amazon US now they’ve price matched...and an uncut French version of Casino Royale Deluxe. Looking at the bonus disc content- it seems completely underwhelming. The world of bond seems to be an amalgamation of the mission control stuff- it’s just a bunch of montage and trivia. Being bond is a 3 minute clip!!!! how are you going to gain any insight from 6 actors on that?!

Thanks for the redirect to the older post. It had been a while and I couldn't recall what actually took place.

It makes me curious to see what / if anything happens in 2015 with Bond 24.

 

[Vahan_Nisanain]

Osato, thank you for liking my posts. Especially the one with the UA DAF logo. It is not showing up on occasion for some reason, though.

 

[Osato]

So.. when will the SE of Quantum of Solace be released? Marc Forster recorded an audio commentary for the film in 2009....

http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/14121/007-director-marc-forster-talks-quantum-of-solace


"Certain things stick out or I don't like this scene or that scene. For instance I just did the commentary for the Bond DVD the other day and I watched it for the first time again. It was interesting, I was trying to focus on the commentary and not get to engaged in the movie, it's hard for me to watch."

 

[bluelaughaminute]

I'm guessing the rather mediocre reputation the film has got in the few years since it came out showed them that not many people like it enough to double dip.
I think its place in the Bond league table is only going to get lower as the years go by.

 

[brioni]

Nice link Osato. I feel he is saying he struggles to watch any of his films generally as (like most directors no doubt) he is a perfectionist and is continually seeing bits he would like to go back and change - the colour of the car is mentioned.

I would be excited to get an SE of the film like many fans would. Its the only Bond that doesn't have a commentary and that needs to be put right! even the unofficial Bonds CR67 and Never Say Never Again have one now so lets go!

And the deleted scene would top it off nicely.

 

[Osato]

Nice link Osato. I feel he is saying he struggles to watch any of his films generally as (like most directors no doubt) he is a perfectionist and is continually seeing bits he would like to go back and change - the colour of the car is mentioned.

I would be excited to get an SE of the film like many fans would. Its the only Bond that doesn't have a commentary and that needs to be put right! even the unofficial Bonds CR67 and Never Say Never Again have one now so lets go!

And the deleted scene would top it off nicely.

I agree it should be released. I know there was a lot of turmoil at MGM during 2009, so perhaps this is why the SE was shelved.
Hopefully a SE of the film is released at some point. I'd like to see the cut scenes, particularly the "My name is Bond, James Bond." one.
I think Quantum Of Solace is a good Bond film. I enjoyed the pacing and thought it was a good spy story as well. I am puzzled by those who didn't care for it.