"Medium" goes 3-D in November

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  1. Steve Phillips

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    TV GUIDE reports that NBC will air a 2 hour episode of "Medium" with several 3-D sequences in November.

    The article has a picture which shows anaglyph (red/blue) glasses but I have a feeling the actual show will use the Pulfrich Illusion instead, which isn't really 3-D at all, but simply a trick that is accomplished with an ordinary moving camera. I hope not, though, as I'd rather see an attempt at real 3-D content, even in anaglyph format. Also, 99% of the time anyone tries to harness the Pulfrich thing it fails miserably because they don't know how to do it. Anyone remember the hilariously bad attempt at Super Bowl Halftime 3-D or "3rd Rock"? Pathetic.

    I guess the character's psychic visions will be the 3-D sequences?

    Glasses are to be included in an issue of TV GUIDE.
     
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    Has 3-D ever done well in anything it has been put in?
    This is a horrible idea and I hope they do not do it.
     
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    Of course. There were several excellent examples of stereoscopic cimema in the 1950's period. Those films used the process to enhance and were for the most part expertly photographed, unlike most of the stuff that's come since then.

    More recently, POLAR EXPRESS was astonishing in IMAX 3-D, and it made $50 million dollars on just 60+ screens!

    It's just a technology, and 3-D photography goes back to the 1850's! Look beyond the schlock and porn and you'll see it has and will continue to be used with excellent results as well as the low budget eye-straining junk. There is quite a wave of new polarized 3-D coming, using both digital projection and IMAX. It seems the projection difficulties that have always plagued good 3-D projection are finally going to be solved. Look beyond the idea of pointing sticks at the camera, even if many producers in the past have not.

    In any case, "Medium" is happenning. If the glasses are the red/blue type, the 3-D is real but of course only as effective as that inferior process allows.

    It's all a plot to sell issues of TV Guide anyway; and NBC will do anything to boost ratings!

    Those looking to experience good 3-D are advised to check out CHICKEN LITTLE in digital polarized 3-D (in 100 select theatres) or the IMAX 3-D re-issue of POLAR EXPRESS.
     
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    Will they have the NBC Turkey bug in 3-D too? [​IMG]
     
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    Having seen the glasses, we can now confirm that NBC is using the anaglyph red/blue process for the "Medium" episode airing November 21st.

    While I'm not a big fan of the anaglyph format, at least it is real 3-D, and the HDTV version should prove interesting.

    Glasses will be enclosed in TV Guide, and also available through retail outlets. Any pair of red/blue glasses will do.
     
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    I think it's the other format.. polarized? Anyway, that thing that they use at Disneyworld and places.. I could stare at that for a while.. that is wild compared to Red/Green 3D attempts. Amazingly watchable.
     
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    So there will be a regular version too then for broadcasting abroad?
     
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    No, it's red/blue anaglyph presentation for "Medium" for sure. (You can't even do polarized format over TV.)

    Of course a 2-D version can be prepared and will likely be used for syndication use eventually. (I'm sure the eventual DVD set would offer a 3-D option.)

    I'd be very surprised if the 3-D format is dropped for overseas broadcasts, though, as there have been tons of 3-D TV experiments outside the U.S. over the past 20 years. Most likely they'd do a similar glasses promotion in many other countries where the series airs.

    Understand the "Medium" footage isn't being *shot* in the red/blue anaglyph format, it will simply be presented that way on NBC. They could take that footage and release it in a higher quality format (such as field sequential) if they wanted to later on.
     
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    I still have that 3rd Rock episode taped and I think the Pulfrich technique that they used in the various 3D segments worked fairly well...for a while, but it can give you a headache before too long.
     
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    Pulfrich isn't a 3-D technique. Nothing is actually shot in 3-D; it's all an illusion based on camera movement. I can't really see how you could get a headache from watching flat moving footage through a dark lens for a few seconds? The Super Bowl Halftime and the 3rd Rock thing is all ordinary flat 2-D footage.

    Those stupid fireworks rainbow glasses they handed out to promote the VH-1 80s show though, can drive your eyes crazy in seconds. I hope no one out there actually tried to wear them during the show!

    Anaglyph however, can be an issue because of the retital rivarly and the distorted color. But at the very least it is real 3-D!
     
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    Be sure to check out the HDTV feed if at all possible, as with it being component video (although the HD component spec is slightly compromised at 4:1:1) the anaglyph should cancel out better using the red/blue 3-D glasses, compared to the standard def (composite video) counterpart.

    But as Steve has mentioned above, even under ideal conditions color anaglyph will always have a degree of retinal rivalry and distorted color. The colored red & blue gels also tend to slightly reduce perceived sharpness.
     
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    Yes, I know that the Pulfrich effect is not a literal format (the dark side of the glasses registers in the brain slightly later than the clear side) but I can only tell you that when watching that particular episode during the longer "3D" segments I tent to get a headache, far more than with anaglyph.

    But as far as the effectiveness of the illusion goes....it looks pretty good in that particular episode IMO.
     
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    What kind of retail stores sell the glasses? Will the TV Guide issue for the week of the show be the one containing the glasses?
     
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    On a side note, is there a way to convert existing video into 3-D? I ask because that would be a cool thing to do for my son's science project. He's done (or rather I have) the lightsaber thingy....
     
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    The glasses VH-1 gave away for I Love the 80s: 3D are polarized, so evidently somebody thinks you can. [​IMG] (I can't testify from personal experience. I don't watch the show myself, I just picked up a couple of free pair of the glasses at Best Buy for my sister and niece, who do watch it. Definitely polarized grey, not red/blue.)

    I also seem to remember previous attempts at broadcast 3D (none of which I watched) that used polarized glasses.

    Regards,

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    Nah, the VH-1 glasses are not polarized, but they do look similar, so I can see how you'd make that assumption.

    The VH-1 glasses aren't 3-D glasses at all, but simply prism viewers they often hand out at fireworks displays. if you hold them up to a light, you'll see the color prism effect. The VH-1 broadcast wasn't 3-D at all, the glasses just make colors appear to pop at bit. This works even if you look at any magazine or comic book, even the wallpaper in your mom's kitchen! Similar looking to polarized glasses, but not at all the same.

    The other format you are thinking of is Pulfrich Illusion, which is also not real 3-D at all, but simply a naturally occuring accidental illusion of depth which can be glimpsed during flat 2-D footage that has camera movement happening in a very specific way. The glasses they give out have one dark lens, which helps the novice viewer see the illusion; the other lens is simply plain plastic and it really just there to fill the hole! You can see this accidental 3-D in basketball games, action movies, etc at times during motion scenes. They've done "3-D" promotions on TV using this gimmick a few times on TV.

    Polarized 3-D simply can't work over broadcast TV, it is way too complicated; requiring silver screens, projection filters, etc. If you've got a pair of CHICKEN LITTLE glasses, they aren't going to work for TV broadcasts!

    "Medium" is definitely simply red/blue anaglyph. I've already got the glasses! Besides TV GYIDE, they'll be given away at Sprint stores I think. In any case, if you've got a pair of red/blue viewers already, you are set.
     
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    Pity CBS isn't doing this for Ghost Whisperer. Jennifer Love Hewitt. Now there's a reason for 3D TV. [​IMG]

    Joe
     
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    More like 34D rather than 3D, Joseph!

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    The glasses I got from TV Guide suck. The 3-D effect just isn't that impressive using the cheap glasses. The red "lens" is just too dark, or something.
     

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