Medical Marijuana (1 Viewer)

[Sam Posten]

The issue isn’t state vs federal law, it’s that alcohol filters out of your body in around 8 hours so I can drink after work and on the weekends and I’m fine. Anything containing THC, on the other hand, will show up on a drug test for about a month and my company doesn’t care if you had it a day ago or three weeks ago, a positive test is instant separation of employment.

I don’t think you understand what I’m saying with YET. When the federal law inevitably changes the laws will be similar to DUI. They won’t be able to stop you permanently from partaking, just give you a window you can’t imbibe.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

The problem with that, which hasn’t been addressed yet, is that there isn’t a test available that can distinguish between “this person is high as fuck this very moment” and “this person consumed a tiny gummy a month ago and didn’t even get a buzz”. THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, is lipid soluble, which means that traces of it wind up in your body’s fat cells and trigger positive test results weeks and months after the marijuana was actually consumed. A marijuana test can be useful for a parent concerned that their teenager is experimenting with drugs, but isn’t equitable in other contexts. If you get into a car accident, you get tested to see it you’re drunk at the scene, not if you had a drink a month ago. Everyone getting tested for marijuana is essentially being tested on whether they’ve consumed it in the last month or longer, not if they’re actually impaired at the moment of testing.

When it became legal in NY, both lawmakers and pro-marijuana business lobbyists and pro-marijuana organizations and for profit test making companies all said fixing that was a priority, and it hasn’t happened yet. Even if it were to become federally legal tomorrow, there still wouldn’t be an appropriate test for it. As long as there are career positions where it is considered appropriate and necessary to test for drugs and alcohol, people subject to those tests will be fine continuing to drink or use harder drugs like heroin, cocaine and fentanyl because all of those things become undetectable in a matter of hours, and people who use marijuana will still be at risk of professional/career consequences because the test they’re subject to gives positives that have no correlation to impairment.

 

[JohnRice]

The problem with that, which hasn’t been addressed yet, is that there isn’t a test available that can distinguish between “this person is high as fuck this very moment” and “this person consumed a tiny gummy a month ago and didn’t even get a buzz”. THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, is lipid soluble, which means that traces of it wind up in your body’s fat cells and trigger positive test results weeks and months after the marijuana was actually consumed. A marijuana test can be useful for a parent concerned that their teenager is experimenting with drugs, but isn’t equitable in other contexts. If you get into a car accident, you get tested to see it you’re drunk at the scene, not if you had a drink a month ago. Everyone getting tested for marijuana is essentially being tested on whether they’ve consumed it in the last month or longer, not if they’re actually impaired at the moment of testing.

When it became legal in NY, both lawmakers and pro-marijuana business lobbyists and pro-marijuana organizations and for profit test making companies all said fixing that was a priority, and it hasn’t happened yet. Even if it were to become federally legal tomorrow, there still wouldn’t be an appropriate test for it. As long as there are career positions where it is considered appropriate and necessary to test for drugs and alcohol, people subject to those tests will be fine continuing to drink or use harder drugs like heroin, cocaine and fentanyl because all of those things become undetectable in a matter of hours, and people who use marijuana will still be at risk of professional/career consequences because the test they’re subject to gives positives that have no correlation to impairment.

Way to harsh my buzz, dude.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

Way to harsh my buzz, dude.

Just one of many services I provide!

 

[Sam Posten]

Seems to me the burden of proof will be on the employer. IANAL but I can’t see how it will be legal for a job to prohibit you from an ostensibly legal pursuit on your own time.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

IANAL but I can’t see how it will be legal for a job to prohibit you from an ostensibly legal pursuit on your own time.

Somehow they always seem to find ways to do just that.

 

[Sam Posten]

Somehow they always seem to find ways to do just that.

Genuinely curious: can you provide examples?

 

[Josh Steinberg]

It was sort of a reflexively cynical response on my part, that posted response, but I sent you a PM with the TL;dr version which you can feel free to TL;dr if you like!

 

[Rob_Ray]

I've been dealing with chronic back pain for years, and after trying various treatments, I found that CBD really helps. Since starting CBD, I feel more at ease and comfortable throughout the day. For those who use it, do you guys feel the same?

And where do you get the CBD from? I get mine from Releaf, a medical cannabis clinic here in the UK.