Media misses astronauts' joke: "Daisy"

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  1. Dennis Nicholls

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    Yes, we all know the media decends more into the
    "X" and "Y" gen pit of ignorance as the days go by.
    But what about the aluminum rail? Will the whole
    350ft section end up costing over $3 billion?
    That's about $14,000 a pound for aluminum worth
    about $2.75/lb in extruded form on Earth.
    The I.S.S. is a bottomless, worthless money pit.
    If the average American knew what it cost to this
    point, they'd be outraged.
     
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    What's the song about? Pardon me- I'm an "ignorant Gen X'er". [​IMG]
     
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    "Daisy" was the song that HAL sang at the end of 2001: A Space Odyssey as Dave disconnected him.

    [HAL's shutdown]
    HAL: I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm a...fraid. Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L. plant in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it I can sing it for you.
    Dave Bowman: Yes, I'd like to hear it, HAL. Sing it for me.
    HAL: It's called "Daisy."
    [sings while slowing down]
    HAL: Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. I'm half crazy all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two.
     
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    It's hardly worthless. The only problem is that the ISS's original mission has been undercut by the unrealistic slashing of NASA's budget.

    Every journey begins with a single step, and the ISS is the first step in the human expansion into space. The project is worth far more than the current estimates of its eventual cost.

    You are treading into an area about which many here, including yours truly, feel very passionate.
     
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    But Jack, didn't you like the astronauts' panache in singing Daisy? [​IMG]
     
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    Where did the original post that Jack is quoting go to? I agree that the space station is a huge expendature, but worth it. I think we need to up Nasa's budget.
     
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    Fortunately for us, the average American probably doesn't even know what ISS is. [​IMG]
    /Mike
     
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    I'm all for sending all members of boy bands, N Sync, Backstreet Boys, etc. up into space. I just wish they'd leave them there. Hell, you can even send the now members of Menudo up there, I wouldn't care. While we're at it, we can send Britney and Christina up there too...
    [​IMG]
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    BTW, the "aluminum rail" is much more than just a truss. There are cooling systems and all kinds of electronics on board which make up the majority of the cost I'm sure. Kind of like saying that cars and trucks are exhorbitantly expensive since they are little more than 2 steel rails and a framework.
     
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    Thanks, Tom. Didn't make the 2001 connection. But the verse you quoted is what I thought the song was about.
    I'm now a less ignorant Gen X'er.[​IMG]
     
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    Or maybe Skylab?
     
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    Salyuts 1 and 4 through 6, along with Skylab, can be considered babysteps toward a "real" space station (i.e., a longterm orbiting outpost). Mir brought us closer to the ideal, and it would have been great had the country of origin been able to afford its upkeep and need for repairs. So, the onus falls onto the ISS to become the first "true" permanent manned space station.

    (NASA wanted to send additional crews to Skylab in order to boost its orbit and have it maintained for an eventual visit by astronauts of the STS era. But, alas, the administration at the time could not have cared less about the manned space program, and, in 1979, Skylab paid the ultimate price for this neglect and apathy.)
     
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    I thought the first step was Sputnik.

    Glenn
     

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