Me Without You -- P&S! Shame on you Columbia

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  1. Seymour Uranowitz

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    Cropped from 2.35:1 to 1.78:1 (anamorphic). Really appalling -- noses talking to each other from opposite ends of a dining room table, scenes that are vertically stretched to accommodate superimposed text.

    This is an art house title, not a blockbuster or a kid's movie. I can't believe CTS would show so little respect for the director and the audience.
     
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    This is why I passed on it. Saw it in the theater, great little movie. So obscure, I doubt they will ever fix it.
     
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    That's Sony for ya. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
     
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    Wow, I had no idea. We just watched it the other day. I hadn't seen it in the theatre but I did not not notice any talking noses or weird artifical pans.

    Are sure it is P&S and not that the frame was just opened up more?
     
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    According to the IMDB, Me Without You was filmed in anamorphic as opposed to Super35, so that would mean the DVD was cropped to 1.77:1. (Although the IMDB is not always correct).

    http://us.imdb.com/Technical?0263725

    I'm wondering if perhaps the modified AR was intended by the director (like The Recruit). Did it have a "modified to fit your screen" disclaimer in the beginning?
     
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    There's at least one artificial pan in the dining room scene near the beginning. The opening credits are in 2.35:1, but everything else is cropped. What surprises me even more is that none of the reviews I've read of this DVD make notice of its compromised presentation.

    Mark
     
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    Was this intentional on the part of the filmmakers? It's happened before with The Recruit, Life as a House, Apocalypse Now, and Playing By Heart.
     
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    Adam, I'm fairly sure all the examples you list open up the mattes abit. AFAIK, this is the first movie to actually be panned and scanned to 1.78.
     
  10. Seymour Uranowitz

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    SHIT!!

    Dan
     
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    It appears that the Region 2 UK release is 2.35:1. It also appears that the UK version is only DD 2.0 I was trying to decide which version to pick up (R2 being a bit pricier) but I guess I know now. What a shame but thanks for the heads up.
     
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    I posted a thread on this a few weeks ago, but I guess no one else had had a chance to see the disc yet.

    Yeah, it's definitely an intentional thing; it's definitely P&S (I noticed, as I said in the other thread two pans and two "squishies"). It's bizarre and ugly and I do not understand.

    I quote myself:

     
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    Karl, I just wanted to thank you for your first post. It gave me a chance to cancel my pre-order for this title. Fortunately, I ordered it with a few other titles that had not yet been released.

    So thanks again for saving me the grief. Sorry if you ended up with that bogus version. [​IMG]
     
  15. Seymour Uranowitz

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    Karl, I apologize for not seeing your first thread. I did a search on "Me Without You" before posting, but for some reason it comes up empty. Perhaps with two posts now Columbia will get the message that this is totally unacceptable.

    Seymour
     
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    Wow, that's terrible news, and I was thinking of picking this one up.

    I originally thought this film was Super 35 and the 1.78 framing would just be a reframing of the spherical neg, but yeah, it's an anamorphic film and inexcusable for Columbia to do this. Obviously the director and DP were LONG, far away when they did the mastering for this. UGH.

    Jason
     
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    Seymour -- no apologies necessary! Maybe the words in the title are too common to turn up anything useful in search...?

    Tony -- the copy I watched was the one I picked up for my video store, which I probably would have gotten regardless. So no skin off my nose.

    It is distressing and a really odd decision on the part of the studio, though.

    Thanks for the link, Jeffrey! Good review.

    --K
     
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    gonna check this out...hey Karl - don't you pick up everything for the store?
     
  20. Karl F

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    gonna check this out...hey Karl - don't you pick up everything for the store?

    Not even close. I skip a lot of mainstream stuff and all the straight-to-video crap. We focus mostly on foreign, indie, arthouse, documentaries, stuff like that. We're a small, selective store.

    --K
     

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