- Nov 16, 2001
All I have to say is, way to go Merriam-Webster.
All I have to say is, way to go Merriam-Webster.
I used to work on the evening shift for over two years while I was in 1st and 2nd year, and they were some of the best times. I really did meet a lot of good people there, some of whom I still keep in touch with almost 15 years later.I worked at McDonalds all through high school and met many good, hardworking decent people. One went on to manage, and later own his own McDonalds. Another, one of my best friends, passed on college and instead managed a McDonalds for 6 years. He now owns his own consulting business which services lagging fast food restaurants, and restores them to peak efficiency and earnings. He's a millionaire, and credits his McDonalds career for all of it.
MW should be ashamed for doing this. All work is good work, and MW should stick to puffing up its dictionary with useful words instead of degrading people and the work they do.
They didn't invent the term. It has been in usage for some time now. The term McJob has generally been used to denote boring work of low stature, low pay, low benefits, and low opportunity. Their definition of the term is accurate.yeah we know, but why do we really need a one-word term to describe low paying/low opportunity jobs? how difficult is it to say what it really is? half the time, you will have to explain what a mcjob really is, you will end up using up more time explaining than you originally planned on saving by having it as a one-word term. this is all a silly idea, with a good way to get yourself in trouble in court by a sue-happy company.
Lets see 1000 people out of the 400000 employed by McDonalds have succeeded in getting their own franchises.
1000/400000 * 100 = 0.25%
Sure is nice to see that McDonalds has been so successful helping the counter staff realize the American Dream. Keep up the good work.
Actually that 0.25% is much lower.
400,000 is their current headcount, but the 1,000 number
is from all employees over the years.
If you divide 1,000 by the millions of people who have worked at McD's over the years that percent goes down.
On the other hand, I doubt that many other large scale employers can say that 1,000 of their hires have gone on to own their own franchise.
i agree. this 'word' is barely ever used. they didnt invent the term, but it definitely not used enough to warrant entry into their latest edition.Have you ever seen the words that are in your average dictionary? I don't see diatomaceous used all that often either, but any dictionary worth its salt will have an entry for it
I've actually heard McJob quite a bit, and it certainly has been used often in newspaper and magazine articles (a clear sign that it has entered common usage). Google it and take a look at the results
In fact, it's pretty interesting that the prefix Mc has become productive, meaning that it is capable of carrying its own semantic "weight" in the construction of words. Witness McMansion or McMovie, both of which I've heard on numerous occasions. Although in these cases (especially McMansion), the sense of Mc denotes something generic, and not necessarily inferior.
Bottom line: you may not like that people use the term, and you may even be offended by it, but dictionaries contain far more offensive entries. Linguists don't exist to be the language police (at least GOOD ones don't try to), they're just here to describe how language is used in everyday life.
M-W has done nothing wrong here.Yeah, complaining to the dictionary people about that kind of thing is like complaining to Rand-McNally that Austrailia is so far away from the US.
Is "conversate" a word? I heard people use it, but I'm dubious that it's a "bonafide" word yet.Ah, if I only had the absolute power to make such judgments ...
Yeah, as much as I annoy friends talking about how fluid and dynamic language is, and how people that rail on and on about folks speaking "improperly" just don't grasp that natural languages are inherently dynamic and change from generation to generation, some things still annoy me.
"Conversate" is one of them, but only because we have a perfectly good word already in use: "converse". In fact, conversate is just a truncation of conversation which itself is a derivation of converse ("conversate" is what is called a back-formation).
I also hate marketing jargon like "productize". Tech jargon and medical jargon doesn't really bother me (probably cuz I use it myself from time to time). I think it's that techies use jargon as kind of a social cue, whereas when I hear marketing types spout off about something it's that they are trying to sound smart or informed when they typically are not. No offense intended to marketing types in the audience! It always reminds me of that Simpsons episode where they're coming up with the Poochie character.
I digress, and this is starting to drift from the original topic, but as you can tell I like talkin' language
That reminds me, I was going to go out and buy some Diatomaceous (die-uh-toe-may-shus) EarthHeh. I just pulled that out as an example because I was looking at my fantasy football team which is called Diatomaceous Earth. My team sucks, but is good enough to annoy some of the heavyweights in my league now and again. I'm hoping to wear them down by the end of the season. I keep having to explain the name, but I guess I asked for it ...
Well good to hear from people behind the counter! I always assumed by all the long faces I saw, McyD's workers hated their job.I think it should be made clear that a Micky D job is not a career. Many folks have entered the labor market there or at other fast food and gon on to much more rewarding enterprises. At these entry level jobs people learn teamwork, responsibility, pride in work and other valuable skills.
Fast food should not be disdained as a job, but recognized for what it is - entry level employment for young people, and remedial employment for those who need to learn (or re-learn) the basics.
I am a graduate of fast food and now have a respectable income and career in finance. I am always proud of where I got my start.