MATRIX by Warner: big joke

David-alexander

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time for them to stop fooling around with pan and scan and other unnecessary releases.
remaster THE MATRIX with the utmost video resolution, add a nice DTS track (arf!!!!!!! ) and sell 5 million copies of it.
THAT would be smart. especially since the II and III are postponed.
I guess they must have too much money
 

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You're kidding, right?
I thought The Matrix DVD is one of the BEST DVD's out there!
The sound is excellent, as is the image! Extras? If you walk away after watching this disc and you're not satisfied, you're crazy!
I think the only thing that can really be improved is the addition of a DTS track (like you said)....but the DD 5.1 track really is fine.
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Matthew Chmiel

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Or how bout....
1) Take the current transfer from the previous DVD.
2) Include full bit rate DD and DTS 5.1 tracks, also add in a new DD 2.0 track.
3) Include a new commentary by the Wachowski Brothers.
4) Include the original commentary, the music-only track and the Follow the White Rabbit feature to finish off disc one.
5) On disc two, include the rest of the extras from the current Matrix DVD, all the extras from the Matrix: Revisited DVD, and include the original theatrical trailer.
6) No more DVD-ROM features.
7) Put the 2 discs in Fight Club style packaging.
And bam!

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[Edited last by Matthew Chmiel on August 21, 2001 at 06:27 PM]
 

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Im with ya all the way David.
If those things are put on this release, Ill porbably buy it.
EDIT: damnit matt, you beat me by a second. I like your idea too. I like the case too, but just as it not an annoying case. Sometimes the "special" cases are annoying. X-Men is a great example. If it was a two disc then that would be different. Fight Club is one of my favorite movies and I love the case.

I think a cool "special" Matrix case would be awesome.
[Edited last by Scott Simonian on August 21, 2001 at 06:29 PM]
 

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This has to be one of the most random posts I have seen in some time, but I amgoing to reply anyway

With Warner now putting out the new Matrix Re-visited disc of only supplements (no film), I thought it would have made sense to instead use that as disc 2 of a new 2 disc SE essentially porting over the original release on the first disc. As it stands though the Matirx is still a very decent release, and I would not hold my breath hoping for more DTS output from Warner.
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Elbert Lee

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Warner should just have a new Super Edition of the Matrix with 2 discs, add DTS and charge $29 for it. I'm sure a lot of Matrix fans will bite. I don't think they'll get THAT many takers for a stand alone "extras" disc.
Of course, this disc should probably be issued sometime in the Spring of 2002, somewhat close to the release date of the Sequel.
ELbert
 

David-alexander

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I'm not holding my breath either
lol!
well, maybe they should hand it over Columbia

now, the video transfer is more accurate and with better color rendition than the laserdisc but the laserdisc still beats it, sound speaking.
my point is that Warner is going a weird route here and this non-movie dvd release proves it.
although, I puzzled Warner does not offer us state of the art transfer à la NEW LINE...... which they own for God's sake!!!!!
as for dts....... I know...... btw, if they could stop using that 383kbps dolby and go for the 448kbps at least! ( I already feel someone will tell me 5TH ELEMENT sounds awesome while being a 383kbps dolby
)
I really hope Columbia hit big time the market with their superbit dvds and that it causes some shockwaves...
 

Carl Philip

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i totally agree with PatrickMcCart here. it´s an awesome disc which won´t need to be re-released i think..all in IMHO of course..
but adding a fullrate DTS track would be awesome

[Edited last by Carl Philip on August 21, 2001 at 07:19 PM]
 

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Well, I'm also with the majority that thinks The Matrix disc is one of the best in terms of video and audio.
But why would you guys want it to be re-released as a 2-disc SE? Seems kinda pointless...
Here's a cheaper idea:
1) Buy a slimline double keepcase (a la Gladiator and Hannibal).
2) Print out custom cover art for The Matrix DVD; there has to be somebody out there who has it.
3) Buy The Matrix Revisited.
4) Take that and the original Matrix discs and put them in your brand new keepcase w/ custom cover art.
5) Ditch the snappers (since we all know you probably hate them anyways).
6) Wow your friends with your custom 2-disc set of The Matrix.
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Why?
Why do we need another version?
The first release was perfect!!! As Rob G always states, "It's All in the Mix" !!!!! The 5.1 DD mix on the Matrix disc is reference quality material!!!
A DTS track is definitely not needed on this movie....
Extras to me are just that, extras.....
Give me best Quality Audio and Video transfers and I'm a happy Camper!!!
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[Edited last by Steven Simon on August 21, 2001 at 08:30 PM]
 

Sean_U

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I really think that the Matrix DVD is one of the most overrated DVDs on the market. It does contain great audio/video, but I think that the extras are a bit lacking. I bought this DVD the first day it came out (september 21 1999 or somewhere around there), and was disaqppointed a bit. I had been a supporter of DVD 2 years prior to that release and thought that there were other releases which were done a bit better, but not praised as well.
But that's just my opinion.
 

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I do not understand the disappointment some have with the current DVD for THE MATRIX. It is reference quality all the way. The 5.1 soundtrack is poundingly spectacular.
If Warner was to re-release this title, it should do it SUPERBIT, with the theatrical trailer that we all love but do not have, because the only way to improve this film on DVD would be to remove the music only track, the commentary and all the extras, so that more bits could be used for the video. If DTS was to be used, then ONLY DTS, without a DD5.1 track, as we already have a release with one. This duel soundtrack crap just eats up the bit-rate.
On my 47" Panny, THE MATRIX looks damn good. Much better than some other Warner titles (like Heat and the single layer LW discs) that looked good on my smaller 36" Wega.
MORE BITS FOR THE TRANSFER is all I ask for if there is ever a re-release of any title.
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Am I the only one who thinks that the video on this disc isn't that great? I get some strange pixellation on dark scenes that I don't get in other dark releases (Sleepy hollow and Dark City come to mind). As for features, I think that making some of the ROM stuff (like the storyboards) accessible via a regualr player, and possibly a commentary with the directors would have been interesting. Not the most leaded disc out there, but I was satisfied.
On a semi-related note-I think that the comics from the website should be available in a graphic novel format...
 

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I just had these mad idea; Take either Matthew Chmiel's or Kevin Leonard's idea for a two-disc set and have the box resemble the hollwed-out book Neo keeps his discs and cash in (Baudrillard's "Simulacra and Simulations").
Yeah, I know. Nobody'll get it. Oh well.
-g
[Edited last by GaryEA on August 21, 2001 at 08:54 PM]
 

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Yes, this DVD movie was one I just recently sat down to watch last Friday evening just hours after my vacation from my job got underway!!!!! I had always enjoyed the video and audio presentations as put forth on this film...
...but last Friday night, my enjoyment of the Matrix just got better.
In lieu of a series of HT upgrades I have begun, I recently picked up a Yamaha DDP-1 Dolby Digital Processor for the purpose of continuing to play my AC-3 LD's once my new HT Receiver, the Onkyo TX-DS696, arrives. In the meantime, I have hooked up both my laserdisc's AC-3 RF connector port and my DVD's digital coaxial port to the Yamaha.
I cannot begin to tell anyone here the difference between night and day from the Yamaha and my previous Dolby Digital processor, the Pioneer VSX-D606S receiver.
While the receiver did a credibly solid job, albeit short in the center channel area and the speaker level connectors when used with my subcannon, the Yamaha has been, to me, one of the best pickups I have ever made for my HT!!!!
The sound is so much more compelling all the way around and the bass is so deep...I no longer need to use as much of my sub's gain control as I did last time. (The Yamaha is hooked up to the line level subcannon inputs and activated to work as such on the unit itself!)
As a result, I heard The Matrix at true reference levels not heard nor experienced since seeing the film itself at the theaters back in 1999. Even in adjusting the dialog on the center channel speaker, it was a clear, credible difference!!!!! I could hear voices all the way through the action!!!!
And now, with this Matrix revisited disc coming out, the question remains is it one to add? I am a fan of the film and would welcome it. However, just as the movie itself was repackaged in a DVD limited edition box set as put out by Warner Bros. in late 1999-early 2000, I do not see, IMHO, what harm a double set with a few accenuation as those proposed here previously would do. As much as a DTS fan I am--and I am a big one, mind you
--I would accept The Matrix two-DVD set without it with better comprehensiveness that a two-disc set with all that is on the movie DVD and what is coming up as revisited would indeed surely bring.
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Louis-Olivier

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Actually Warner are doing a new version of matrix for canada. It will include a french language track and will have a french packaging.
I hear some of the extra have to go though to accomodate the french track.
Louis
 

Todd Hochard

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The 5.1 soundtrack is poundingly spectacular
The bass doesn't seem a little compressed to you? It does to me. Simply going dts wouldn't help here, though. I always thought that they could have done better with the mastering of the audio (at least as it is on the disc).
Still, I'm pretty satisfied.
Adding dts would not sell 5 million copies. No chance of that ever happening. This movie already had its day.
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Lewis Besze

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The bass doesn't seem a little compressed to you?
NO!
Do you have any particular scene in mind?
The chopter scene beats any of SPR's single scene on the RTA.
Not to mention my fryed amp inside one of my subs.
Clearly compression don't do that!
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Vince Maskeeper

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Not to mention my fryed amp inside one of my subs.
Clearly compression don't do that!
Actually, that's exactly what compression does. Reduced dynamic range, often to the point of squaring. This dynamics reduction allows more level to be placed at absolute maximum.
The resulting squaring or extreme smashed max signal will easily damage equipment.
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