Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - Season 3 (1 Viewer)

[Josh Steinberg]

I mostly liked the finale.

I am still concerned that they will find a way to bring Ward back. Even though they said he's done, he apparently has the world's greatest agent and contract, and cannot be removed from this show no matter what. It made sense for him to be off the show following the end of season 1, and yet he returned. It made sense for him to be off the show following the end of Season 2, and yet he returned. It made sense for him to off the show following the mid-season finale of Season 3, and yet he returned. So I simply have no confidence or trust that the producers won't go back to that well at some point yet again. Life Model Decoy? Secret twin? Who knows.

I'm just really annoyed at ABC's hyping of the finale - they specifically said that an Agent would die, and Lincoln was not an agent. That point was made over and over throughout the season. Was he even technically a regular cast member and not a guest star? I agree that it's somewhat possible to ignore these things, but when the "next week's previews" all begin with "WHO WILL DIE" there's only so fast you can reach for the remote before you hear stuff you weren't planning on hearing. I think they cheated. They said an Agent would die, and to me, that Coulsen, May, Daisy, Fitz, Simmons, and Mac. Not the two inhumans who helped the team but made a point of not wanting to be agents. Not the inhuman who never joined the agency. Maybe it's just semantics, but that's the point I was making from the start. They're making a big deal as if a core character is leaving, and from my POV, a guest star will simply not be returning.

 

[Sam Favate]

Both Dalton and Mitchell, who were series regulars, have given exit interviews, and the producers have said they are off the show. Dalton hoped he could come back in a flashback but said there are no plans to do so.

 

[NeilO]

Both Dalton and Mitchell, who were series regulars, have given exit interviews, and the producers have said they are off the show. Dalton hoped he could come back in a flashback but said there are no plans to do so.

I wonder what people would say if the first scene in the next season was a Ward flashback.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

Both Dalton and Mitchell, who were series regulars, have given exit interviews, and the producers have said they are off the show. Dalton hoped he could come back in a flashback but said there are no plans to do so.

I totally believe it's been reported (and I read those articles). I just don't believe it'll actually play out that way. I just feel like this show will always return to Ward, because they've always done that, even when it defied common sense and quality writing.

 

[Sam Favate]

It will certainly feel like a different show without him. He's been a big presence in each of the three seasons. I don't see how they can plausibly bring him back. It would ruin the credibility of the show.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

It will certainly feel like a different show without him. He's been a big presence in each of the three seasons. I don't see how they can plausibly bring him back. It would ruin the credibility of the show.

That's why I'm so opposed to it happening. I think his continued presence on the show already had done that.

That's also why I hate how they wrote off Bobbi and Hunter - now that their show officially isn't happening, it would be great if they had just continued on SHIELD, but they were written off in such a way that it would ruin the show's credibility. There is nothing I can imagine them writing that would make it believably okay that those characters were back. They discarded them for nothing.

 

[Joseph Bolus]

I mostly liked the finale.

I'm just really annoyed at ABC's hyping of the finale - they specifically said that an Agent would die, and Lincoln was not an agent. That point was made over and over throughout the season. Was he even technically a regular cast member and not a guest star? I agree that it's somewhat possible to ignore these things, but when the "next week's previews" all begin with "WHO WILL DIE" there's only so fast you can reach for the remote before you hear stuff you weren't planning on hearing. I think they cheated. They said an Agent would die, and to me, that Coulsen, May, Daisy, Fitz, Simmons, and Mac. Not the two inhumans who helped the team but made a point of not wanting to be agents. Not the inhuman who never joined the agency. Maybe it's just semantics, but that's the point I was making from the start. They're making a big deal as if a core character is leaving, and from my POV, a guest star will simply not be returning.

To be fair, at least 28 Agents died who were turned into Primitives.
These were all "real" SHIELD agents.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

To be fair, at least 28 Agents died who were turned into Primitives.
These were all "real" SHIELD agents.

Hahaha true, although doesn't that just emphasize my point of what a cop out their promotional materials were?

 

[dana martin]

well after a week of school finally got around to catching the last 4 episodes in a marathon run today, and thought that they did a good job of wrapping up Ward/Hive and even had that tie in moment to CA:CW, and listening to Coulson , i know what chole Bennet was saying about being tied into the MCU better than it is, but i have to agree, they are supposed to be operating under the radar, of almost everything.

so now the long wait is on to see what changes are going to happen for next season, Who is this new director, how does the AIDA program fit into all of this, and how long till Quake comes back in some form as part of a group?

 

[Joel Fontenot]

Yeah, I don't see the 10 pm slot as either a good thing or a sign of confidence.

I didn't get a chance to comment earlier, so I'll bring this up now. I'm not sure what to make to this new 10pm time slot for next season. For me it's no big deal, because for the big middle section of the country - that's actually 9pm... central time... where I'm at.

And 9pm is not really all that late. But, if I had to wait until 10pm to see something on a weeknight... that might be pushing it. I can see it being a problem in the east and west coasts.

 

[Chip_HT]

Anyone have any thoughts on the opening scene with Coulson and Daisy on Maveth? Anything foreshadowing there, or just a meaningless dream?

I thought it was the moon. Looked like Earth in the background. I thought it might be setting up the death scene, which we knew was in space.

 

[Sam Favate]

In case anyone was wondering why ABC passed on the Marvel's Most Wanted pilot:

“Most Wanted, ultimately at the end of the day, did not feel as strong as some of the other pilots that we shot,” said ABC Entertainment president Channing Dungey. “We talked about it with Marvel and we all came to an agreement that we want to figure out what the next show is that we do together, is something that we all feel is as creatively strong as it can be.”

http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...eveals-why-marvels-most-wanted-didnt-work-out

 

[Josh Steinberg]

In case anyone was wondering why ABC passed on the Marvel's Most Wanted pilot:



http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...eveals-why-marvels-most-wanted-didnt-work-out

It's a shame that they needlessly sacrificed two of the most fan favorite characters from Shield for the sake of a spin-off that ultimately isn't happening. They shouldn't have written them off in such a permanent way.

 

[David Weicker]

They're not dead, so it isn't permanent.

SHIELD has acted clandestinely before, so off the books isn't out of the question. The organization hasn't always been authorized/legal, so if the want to change rules, nothing stops them.

Clause 37b states that when situations of network shortsightedness occurs, the dis-avowed can be re-avowed

 

[Josh Steinberg]

They're not dead, so it isn't permanent.

SHIELD has acted clandestinely before, so off the books isn't out of the question. The organization hasn't always been authorized/legal, so if the want to change rules, nothing stops them.

Clause 37b states that when situations of network shortsightedness occurs, the dis-avowed can be re-avowed

To me, they made such a point of "these characters can never ever work for Shield or any agency ever again" and then in following episodes made such a point of the remaining characters being upset about this, that I don't think I could ever truly accept it. They wrote them off in just as permanent way as if they had been killed, in my opinion. If they're brought back, it will feel like writers writing rather than organic plot development.

 

[Nelson Au]

Agent Carter would be something they could make that's creatively strong if you ask me. But what do I know.

There was a thread about Don Knotts at a autograph show and how Norman Fell had no one at his table while Don Knotts was popular. The inference was Fell was pissed at Knotts for getting attention for Three's Company when Fell was the original guy along with Audra Lindley. As you recall Fell and Lindley went off to make their spinoff and it didn't catch on so they couldn't come back to Three's Company. When I read that, regardless of if he really was mad at Knotts, it reminded me of this incident. Hunter and Bobbi were screwed when they left SHIELD to make that Most Wanted pilot with no way back. I agree it's a TV show, they can find a way to get them back.

 

[Sam Favate]

Well, Adrianne Palicki has landed a regular spot on the new Seth MacFarlane sci-fi series, so she'll be busy.
http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/seth...-palicki-joins-seth-macfarlanes-sci-fi-series

BTW, Marvel TV head Jeph Loeb had this to say on Bobbi and Hunter returning:

"I think we're best saying that's classified. It's definitely classified, but keep watching."

http://moviepilot.com/posts/4008941