Marilyn Monroe 80th Anniversary Collection Question

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  1. Ken Koc

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    Does anyone know if the "New" Marilyn Monroe 80th Anniversary DVD set is just the old discs repackaged or have they been remastered with new transfers?
     
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    I read somewhere (though I couldn't tell you where) they are the exact same transfers, just repackaged for this new collection.
     
  3. Ken Koc

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    The New York Times reports today they are "remastered", hence my confusion.
     
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    I doubt they are remastered as the ones in the Diamond Collections were remastered (there are before and after restoration clips as extras). I am satisfied with the ones I have.
     
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    i wonder if there are deleted scenes. i know for sure how to marry a millionaire and gentlemen prefer blondes have them and they weren't included in the diamond collections. i wonder why??
     
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    They are the same exact transfers. It's just another example of the groundbreaking expertise of Fox's marketing folks who are following the Sony/Uni mode of pointless regurgitation.

    Sad.
     
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    The cover art which appears to be the original poster art is infinitely superior to the diamond collection cover art.
     
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    So I guess River of No Return is still cropped and not a true 2.55:1?
     
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    How can you be sure?
    I'd love to see them
     
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    marilyn and jane had another musical number together that was cut. it's the number where they have the black/yellow floral ensembles on. you can see a clip of it in the original trailer
     
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    Almost evey film has scenes that are shot and not used. This does not mean the studio still has those scenes, and from what I know, Fox certainly does not have this stuff. They do have four numbers cut from No Biz Like Show Biz that have not been included.
     
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    I measured the old(er) R1 DVD as 2.53:1, I think that's accurate enough. (Assuming my cropping of the letterboxing is perfectly accurate)

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    Or are you suggesting that Fox took a roughly 2.35:1 transfer, then cropped it at the top and / or bottom to make it appear closer to a 2.55:1 O.A.R. transfer?

    I am personally very happy with the quality of all the Monroe transfers, I do not think they need to be remastered. I understand that these films sell well, hence Fox has issued a new box.
     
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    The Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend number from Gentlemen Prefer Blondes was also filmed in CinemaScope as a demonstration of the new process. I'm pretty sure it still survives (stereo?). That would be a great supplement.
     
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    i saw those 4 musical numbers on amc years back, but i don't know why they didn't include them on the dvd.
     
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    Sorry, Corey, but Fox was NOT good about keeping unused material. This is why we do not have the extra footage from King and I, Carousel, Sound of music, Dr. Dolittle, Sand Pebbles, etc.
    BTW - the AMC specials showed only ONE cut number from NoBix, - anything you can dol - and no others from this film.
     
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    i've seen ethel merman's vesrsion of heat wave in show biz
     
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    Thanks for that screen cap from RIVER OF NO RETURN. Reminds me that I need to revisit it very soon. Good film, and I love all of Marilyn's songs in the picture.
     
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    Just because the aspect ratio appears correct numerically doesn't mean that you are seeing the correct image. The AMC broadcast of River of No Return featured a 2.55:1 ratio that contained picture info on all four sides, leading one to believe that the dvd is incorrectly framed.
     
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    It looks fine to me, I can't think of any shots where people appear cropped off the sides, which is what would occur if the image was improperly framed. But if anyone has any comparisons to the TV broadcast version, and the DVD, then I'd love to see it. Is there any old threads about this that someone can recall?
     

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