A local store here has that receiver since they're an authorized dealer. I want to upgrade from my yamaha rx-v520 and this seems like a nice reciever. The price is about $549 but the guy at the store said he come close to what accessories4less has a referb'd for which is $449. I looked at the receipt for the yamaha and see i paid $495 for in in 2002! I got it from a chain store and after seeing that it kind of p&(&ed me off. Honestly i get mad at myself for not taking the time like i am now. I'll let it go and also try to sell the yamaha. What do you guys think of the marantz? I'm upgrading in bits and pieces. Oh the store that has the marantz also has paradigms and definitive tech speakers. They sound better and match better than the klipsch 10.5 i have now. Oh if i don't respond right away that's because i'm blocked at work. i'll try anonymizer. thanks for your help.